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youtube downloader — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:11:18 -0000

I’m already hopped up, and it’s like free marketing for two products that didn’t spend a dime to get me excited!

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Jackie — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:59:16 -0000

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David Murray — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:47:36 -0000

Yep - YouTube is loosing cash but I don't think they are built to make money.

I don't go to YouTube to buy things - the two examples you presented (though good in their own right)did nothing to excite me about the upcoming Dark Knight film - my attentions span lasted all about 20 seconds.

Going to a library - or when I went to the library - I didn't expect to find ads in the books I read. Same for YouTube, I enjoy their library (free resource) of videos.

So I don't know how they would go about raking in the dough. I wouldn't mind if they had a separate link to a YouTube mall - that sold niche related items (video cameras, equipment, books, movie gift certificates, etc).

Maybe that’s how they can make some money??

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Pam Hawk — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:48:57 -0000

Brilliant. Surprised they aren't already doing it.

It took Eggo waffles a long long time to come up with syrup, maybe YouTube will catch on eventually.

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SomeAudioGuy — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:43:56 -0000

I wonder if Amazon would really be keen on this idea, as they're trying to use their own video units through the affiliate program.

I guess anything that increases sales right?

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Amrita — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:03:55 -0000

Chris,

I wouldn't like YouTube to have those kinds of ads unless they were done the way iTunes lists what other viewers bought/listened to. I like that iTunes doesn't use a robot to pretend it is having a conversation with you -- i.e. Hi, I noticed you like X, how about buying Y.

I would prefer if YouTube and many others, just kept it simple.

--Amrita

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chrisbrogan — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:14:06 -0000

@Mike - great point. I can see this mucking with their adsense dollars. Hmmm.

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mike — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:56:25 -0000

hey chris,
i like your idea a lot. definitely got me thinking. however, one issue popped up in my mind. if youtube did this affiliate strategy would that lower the value on the other inventory on the site? Not sure on this one. but i could see one of their in video advertisers getting upset if there were an amazon link distracting users from their ad. especially because the affiliate ads would be tempting for many users. the obvious retort to this is that if more users were clicking on affiliate ads, google would make more money. but maybe google doesn't want to make money for amazon. or maybe they are building some other strategy that would conflict with this affiliate idea. nevertheless, your thinking is really provocative.

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David Kowarsky — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:05:41 -0000

Chris-

Sounds great, and Pandora is a great implementation of this kind of thinking, but there is no UGC there.

To adapt the oft used metaphor from L&O, this kind of monetizing would be fruit from of the poison tree, wouldn't it? If Youtube was aware, even automatedly, that this was copyrighted material, the legally responsible course of action is to demand proof from the poster that they are the copyright holder and/or simply suspend the account since it's unlikely to be the case. Making money off it directly (click here to give us money for something illegal one of our users did) would probably get them sued. IANAL, but it seems more than a little thorny.

-Dave

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Greg Rollett — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:21:07 -0000

As long as it is not obtrusive to my viewing. I love the idea, but no company of YouTube's magnitude has shown me that they can do this without getting in my way. A simple "buy" link that floats to a YouTube branded landing page with related Amazon items might work, in that I wanted to go there. Otherwise I'll just keep clicking my way into 4 hours of life that I can never get back.

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chrisbrogan — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:50:38 -0000

Shannon - great point. The potential for video spam is high. Ugh. I guess that means a Greasemonkey script would come up.

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Shannon Ehlers — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:39:48 -0000

Chris,
Yes you make a good point, of course. I basically am in agreement. Especially if it truly is a service to the user (adding value).

The exception for me is that I can envision a slew of video spam professionally designed for high rank and basically published as ads, thus diluting the entertainment value available and requiring us to further sift and parse to find the nugget (Lord knows there is already enough crap there).

-Shannon

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Joe Budde Jr — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:37:59 -0000

In lieu of promoting purchasing more content(which the viewer just got for free via YouTube, hulu, or whomever), content creators, and content advertisers the target is the high revenue and high ROI channels:

Concerts and merchandise. (this is something that Disney and the likes of Hannah Montana do so well)

Skip the Amazon affiliate program and head straight to concert ticket affiliate programs, merchandise, bobble heads for crying out loud! Who doesn't want a bobble head of David Usher? I know I do!

Content 'owners' should use the content to drive the consumer to products with higher margins.

It really ties in to a post I wrote about whether content is the means or the ends when generating revenue.

What do you think content's purpose is while generating revenue?

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chrisbrogan — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:22:06 -0000

@Shannon - but YouTube is an entertainment channel, whereas everything else you've pointed out is a utility. Context. In my mind, YouTube is a place where you'd expect a service that complements the entertainment.

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What is Your Landing Page Doin — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:51:10 -0000

I totally agree with, this is really a no-brainer, but obviously someone is missing a few neurons over at YouTube.

To not take advantage of that massive traffic is really LAME!!!

Interesting post, thanks!

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justin gough — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:45:23 -0000

Its my understanding that google "can't know" what its users upload and it protects them from being sued for copyright violations. Although a similar site, hulu.com can target ads because they have less content and less views, but have secured all copyrights to distribute.

Although we know there is a screening process die to the fact that youtube has no porn on their site.

That's just what I've heard about targeted ads on youtube

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wanjia — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:14:09 -0000

Yes,really great idea!Youtube may earn money now if they use this idea

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youtube downloader — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:37:55 -0000

Anyway,if there is really a good video,I can accept some ads.

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Chester Chen — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:10:00 -0000

Thanks for sharing the hilarious video.

Anyway, I think Youtube should hire you. ;)

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Shannon Ehlers — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:32:31 -0000

Hey Chris, good thought-provoking stuff here!

I had to chime in with my $0.02 - always willing to stir the pot, this time, I've supplied a dissenting opinion.

It's not that I disagree with your premise - they ARE missing out on some money, but is that such a bad thing? The same can be said for Feedburner, Reader, Gmail, and so many other free services (or ad supported services) available thru Google.

There's a huge opportunity to make money on many of these by serving up alternate content, by hooking users up with related service providers, by tabulating user data and reselling it (they wouldn't, would they?!), on and on. But eventually it could get, oh, how to say... spammy.

Maybe it just boils down to how "in your face" you make it. As you and others have indicated, there are those of us who would truly appreciate the opportunity to at least consider purchasing related merchandise. However, there are also those "academic purist" types who would feel put upon by such tactics.

One of the things that makes YouTube so cool is that it is simple, just videos in an easy viewer and a way to share. There are ads, of course, but they are unobtrusive. Same with Feedburner - many of us derive value from the many facets of Feedburner without fees. These are just two examples and Google provides many others (Grand Central, Blogger, and Picasa for instance).

Could Google derive some income by cleverly combining purchase opportunities with these services? Certainly. Would it weaken the sense of community that brings many of us back again and again, ultimately weakening Google's brand? Maybe. Are these monetization schemes part of their core capabilities? I don't know.

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Mitch Joel — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:13:16 -0000

I've argued for a long time that "content is media" and getting people "in the mood" is the way to run it - always. I think the better question is, "why wouldn't YouTube just try it and let us know?"

No harm. No foul. If no one wants to buy anything, there's nothing disruptive and if they do... it's easy.

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chrisbrogan — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:55:05 -0000

Well, there we go. : )

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Darren Daz Cox — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:54:10 -0000

that sounds logical to me....

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Lee McKusick — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:49:00 -0000

I would have to agree also.
I wouldn't mind a some links like that over in the sidebar, as long as they're no glaringly ugly or overly obtrusive. Put something subtle, but clear, and I think we've found what the ??? before the Profit is. =)

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david usher — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:30:31 -0000

hey chris
i totally agree.
there is such a great opportunity for everyone. we would all win. another song of my songs, 'black black heart' became a favorite of the anime world and there must be a hundred different anime videos cut to that song on youtube. ahh if only there was a buy button! now multiply that by all the youtube videos that use music or picture...