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Web design Mauritius — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:26:58 -0000

Unique and refreshing post

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Seo Mauritius — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:25:06 -0000

Great post and Original thanks for sharing school of life

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youtube downloader — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 05:03:14 -0000

At school, the first period media students are all frustrated. They’ve built a media room in FriendFeed, but haven’t figured out what they’re going to use to present their collected information. Dharmesh lets them discuss the benefits of a blog versus just adding a group to Ning. He asks if they’ve tried Scrapblog yet, which makes simple pages in a primarily drag-and-drop interface. They agree to check that out.

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tenant screening — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:06:43 -0000

Who does not want to see this great place? As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words - of course it would be nice if it could be the products or services are re-invested in the medium concrete. As seen with the naked eye, the truth turned out to be stronger.

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Dee — Tue, 04 May 2010 12:00:41 -0000

I thought this was about a middle school class (7 or 8 grade). I was quite surprised when you said 3rd grade. Wow! Things have changed.

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Sikiş izle — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:27:41 -0000

thanks chris

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TownDeeds — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:23:39 -0000

As a technophobe what you write scares the life out of me and makes me wonder for my childrens sanity - however all of it will become a reality, I'm sure my son will be checking his class schedule on his iPhone soon, he's 7!
We won't have children, we'll have cyborgs ;)

Regards
James

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Ari Herzog — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:38:41 -0000

Oh, but Pete, college students already have RSS readers but they are called "going to classes and taking notes the instructor dictates."

Imagine if each lecture of notes is distributed to students by RSS which they receive in a school- or subject-based feed; and then through videos or word processing, responses can be crafted for sharing and grading.

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Pete — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:26:43 -0000

Oh, this was fiction, wasn't it?

I doubt that in a classroom of 3rd graders every student would have an RSS reader.

Actually, I doubt that in a classroom of college students every student would have an RSS reader.

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Dan — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:10:22 -0000

What a brilliant article. I teach interactive media at college and this year we are just beginning to record lectures for our students to download and listen again later. But also to require/allow students to submit podcasts in place of some written work. I will share your article with my colleagues. Thank you so much.

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chrisbrogan — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:59:54 -0000

@Pat - thanks for the fix. : )

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NikkiPilkington — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:12:19 -0000

Another fantastic post Chris - wouldn't it be great to see all schools adopting this model in the next few years?

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LisaN — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:18:34 -0000

I used to tutor twin boys from the grades of 5th-9th. When they entered the 8th grade, I moved from the East Coast to the West Coast. The boys mother was very disappointed and was not looking forward to finding another tutor. So, we started tutoring via webcam. We also used a wiki platform for essay papers, and we used Zoho for document editing and collaboration.

Technology offers so many avenues with regards to education, it's overwhelming.

As a teacher, I don't discount any idea that could provide a way to get students interested and excited about their classwork.

If a teacher stops learning, so will their students.

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evano — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:32:56 -0000

Many commenters disagreeing with the classroom scenario Chris offers state that a future like this will not work because the students are not learning fundamentals like reading and writing. Yet most of these same commenters didn't read carefully enough or critically enough to see that the children are turning in BOOK REPORTS in audio format, and are WRITING BLOG ENTRIES, among other assignments and activities not fully fleshed out in this essay. Missing critical details like that in their reading doesn't argue very strongly for the superiority of current and past educational paradigms.

And, the less said about nitpickers who see typos as "proof" for dismissing the entire point of the article, the better.

But let me give you a hint, Mr. Pedant: the author of this article is not a product of an educational paradigm such as the one he describes. Therefore, if your typo is proof of the "problem" with an educational system, it is proof of the one currently in place, and the one that produced everyone reading and commenting on this thread.

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Patrick John O'Mahony, Sr — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:17:58 -0000

Proof:

The problem with Web 2.0 and all that Audio.

"Dharmesh lets their discuss the benefits of a blog versus just adding a group to Ning."

their vs them

Pat OMahony, pomahony2@hotmail.com

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Kelly — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:12:11 -0000

Chris,

This was a fascinating and provocative post, with amazing comments furthering the discussion. Wow!

I'm going to agree with Adam. My daughter just entered 4th grade this week, and I want her to get her schooling in the disconnected world. Being hyper-connected swallows kids up soon enough.

As a learning experience, I don't see it. Kids of this age don't yet have the breadth of experience or the maturity to "curate their own material." Without reading the books and seeing the work of others, how are they to do this curating?

With all the equipment, I was reading this as a high school or college class. By high school kids can do some great stuff. They'll have picked up the skills outside of school, which is fine.

Remember when we weren't allowed to use calculators in grade school because we wouldn't learn the math with a tool in the way? Learning how to use the tools doesn't teach you the principles behind them, nor how to maximize your use of them.

Budgetary and teacher-training issues aside, I would love to see this come to pass—but for kids who've had a few more years of real-world learning under their belt first.

Regards,

Kelly

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buzzoodle — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:09:06 -0000

Hmmm, everyone is so happy on this one.

I think it is very valuable to learn audacity and some of the tools you mention, but there are more important things not being taught that are more fundamental.

1. Speaking - Why record an audio. Being a good speaker is more important and takes much more skill.

2. Personal Finance - Before you learn YouTube, maybe you should have weekly Quickbooks mock transactions to enter and write about. (Dull, I know. But important)

3. Efficiency - Maybe we should give each kid a budget and they can hire a virtual assistant or buy new software or have a custom app designed to simplify their lives. Now that is a great skill to have.

I think it would take a teacher a lot longer to grade audio files than writing. If they are going to go to the effort, why not just have them do oral presentations. The kid could include media in the presentation, such as playing an audio interview they conducted asking other people what they thought of the book. (If you really want to include audio)

Do not get me wrong. I am not a nay-sayer. My first company was built to advance technology in education. I just do not think that social media will become the main platform. Maybe Kindle, with lots of interactive features where people can collaborate and share will.

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Michael Bailey — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:19:48 -0000

Oh it will all happen, just not this year. Those 3rd graders will grow up with all of this being "just the way you do it" and soon enough some of them will be teachers themselves.

While many of us here can see all of the flora and fauna, nature trails, waterfalls, and other pretty sites of the social media forest, to outsiders it is just a big clump of trees. It will still take a few years before the mainstream people will become curious enough to venture inside.

Oh, and on the downside?

Unfortunately, none of the elements in your story will ever be on the 6 o'clock news. Why? Well, intelligence is not news worthy - but a dog on a skateboard? Oh yea, that will sell some ad spots. Sad truths.

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Max Forlani — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:48:50 -0000

Hi,

really loved this article! As a teacher, and as a web technology lover, I wish my school would introduce a course like that. I'd be happy to sign in and teach these kind of courses.

Cheers,
Max

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Ari Herzog — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:31:25 -0000

Evano brought up the idea of students submitting oral presentations via YouTube or some other A/V medium in addition to a written document.

I like this concept... but not so much for the elementary students. More for the high schoolers who will be using BlackBoard and other online technologies in college, whether bricks-and-mortar or 100% online like Capella University.

Or, what about a family of four who go on vacation and the two kids, each of whom are in school, co-create a video or a series of blog posts, filmed/written on-location, and can both receive credit for an online interactive "show and tell" experience?

Going one step further, I remember being in middle or high school when the space shuttle went up and 2-way conversations were aired on live TV in class. How about taking that best practice example and use it for the kids on vacation, speaking to their peers from wherever and interviewing locals in real-time. Call it citizen journalism for 5th graders.

Hmm?

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Collin — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:22:48 -0000

Chris --

The post & comments here are so inspiring, so BIG-picture that I think this is something that transcends chrisbrogan.com in such a positive way.

Sure there are hurdles to anything this forward-thinking, but I for one have spent a good portion of my day just imagining the possibilities of a classroom that embraces new media in this manner... and I'm not even a teacher!

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James — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:22:45 -0000

What about reading and writing? Is there not a need for balance? Whilst it is exciting that the children can quickly assimilate these new tools and are conveying their new learning through audio and video they might also be leapfrogging the essential skill of literacy (apologies for being a grump)

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justinlevy — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:30:17 -0000

All I can think of is playing Oregon Trail on a slow, old Mac when I was in 3rd grade! :)

It does amaze me how much kids at a younger age know about computers and the internet. I don't think that this concept is that far off from a reality in some schools, or at least the near future reality. Everything that you described is easily accessible now but most of it isn't be used for these purposes. I also think we're more likely to see this type of thing in a college environment right now.

-Justin Levy

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Laura Hecht — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:26:09 -0000

Bravo Chris! The technological advances we welcome in the classroom are merely vehicles to authentic learning. We as teachers must engage students where they are at. Students live in an age of technology. Our goal as educators and adults alike is to teach them the critical thinking skills they need to navigate the web. Students gain more ownership in their learning in the mediums discussed in your post. I'm on board with this type of classroom. Where do I sign up?

Laura

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ccseed — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:24:23 -0000

None of the tools discussed have a complexity that makes training teachers difficult, but the enculturating of the medium is a different issue. I wish more educators would be comfortable with the students teaching each other, and the teachers for that matter, user methodology. While proficiency with the tools is important, because of the ever changing nature of the medium, students should be encouraged to tackle new user tools, to simply plunge into the different interfaces, to embrace the additude that I can figurw this out. (If the next generation of tools do not continue to grow in the area of user "ease", I do not think they will survive in the market).

Concerns about safety should be addressed. Do any of the software companies consider allowing schools to use their tools in secure micro-environments so cultural proficiency need not be undermined by predators?