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John Rampton — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:54:34 -0000

Thanks for the post. I think everyone monetizes their blog in one way or another. Some people just choose to do it in more tangible/overt ways than other!

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Paul Chaney — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:02:26 -0000

"Bloggers are people who use blogging software."

Chris, do you really believe that's all there is to it? At the most base level, yes. But, blogging is more than that. It's an ethos characterized by genuineness, authenticity and transparency, or at least it used to be.

I realize those words carry little import today and that grieves me deeply, but I'll never believe that blogging is nothing more than the use of a technology platform. If that is the case, I need to move on to other pursuits, because I've wasted too much time thinking about it as something more lofty and I'd hate to think I've given the last five years of my life devoted to something that's little more than a sequence of ones and zeros.

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Roland Hesz — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:03:30 -0000

What you wrote Chris about the social webs simply providing tools should not even be a question. The fact that it is suggests that some people have a sort of religious reverence toward the social webs, trying to keep them for the One True Purpose - whatever it should be.
"I will always be clear about where I’m coming from. " - that's the main thing I think.

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Wendy Piersall — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:38:00 -0000

I'm cross posting a comment I made on Valeria's ConversationAgent blog on this topic, because I believe it bears repeating:

If I were to give it a *low* ballpark estimate of all of the sponsored post and sponsored link pitches I have turned down over the years, I think I have probably turned away over $50K in revenue, if not more. It's because they were products or brands I was unwilling to align myself with.

It is completely unjustifiable to judge a blogger's ethics based on what they are paid for, unless you also know how they are unwilling to be bought.

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Carolyn Wood — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:24:52 -0000

mark ivey - "They may be entertaining, educational, inspirational (like you, Chris) and they may “aspire to journalism standards” but they’re not trained journalists." So true - concrete example - someone could have called me out on the encoding/decoding definition of communication from BusinessDictionary.com. I guess digital attribution is a topic for another time. Thanks for expanding my knowledge base.

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UPrinting Postcard Printing — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:18:17 -0000

Blogging is a business almost for everyone and nothing's wrong with that. But be sure to be transparent on everything you write in your blogs and no hypocrisy at all. If you want people to keep coming back to your blog, transparency alone is enough.

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Cindy C. — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:48:12 -0000

Well said Danny! Although I might have altered "beginning to get jaded". When I first started on twitter, I wondered that myself. When I started, I wanted to read all the helpful "How to use twittter" posts (and there are myriads). The very first thing I discovered was that everyone was making up their own rules, almost. Ultimately, I guess, the Golden Rule is the best one to encompass all of the subrules.

(@cynchrys on twitter)

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Danny Brown — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:28:43 -0000

It's the age old question in a new set of clothes - what came first, the sponsored chicken or the righteous egg?

If people want to make money advertising on their blog, where's the harm? If people want to make money writing reviews on their blog, where's the harm? If people want to take paid backlinks in their sidebars, where's the harm?

At the end of the day, the blogger in question will be the one who knows whether they're being true to themselves and their readers, or not.

Is it any different from raving over a product or service normally? Say you love Canon. They say, "We'd love you to review our products for us and you can keep the goods." You're already a fan and you'd probably write about them anyway, so why shouldn't you be compensated (if you wish).

I love this field we play in but I'm beginning to get jaded with all the "You must do this, you mustn't do that" posts and missives flying about.

I know who I am. I know what my ethics are. I know what my transparency is. Can you really tell me what I should or shouldn't do?

Thanks Chris, as usual, for keeping it in the hands of the people who know each other best - ourselves.

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Nicholas Chase — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:07:35 -0000

Chris,

Enjoying the thread that the post's have elicited. This conversation has started some very well crafted responses, and is precisely the basis purpose of our 'computer-based dialog'. Marshall made some salient points for his side of the equation, and your responses were well tempered and respectful.

The freedom to use this electronic medium for any purpose either than illegal is a treasured one for me. The many gifted journalist's who would have no voice at all in the background noise of the publishing business can express their thoughts freely and unreservedly in the blog-o-sphere.

Our country (USA) was founded in the spirit of the freedoms we all share today, and it is always good to elicit responses from a cross section of thought-leaders and others affected by modern decision making processes.

The marketplace will excise any who violate the precepts that make this all possible, ie 'Free Enterprise'.

I value the things you believe in, write about and then open the comments to all for discussion. That precept is reflected in the general responses I read in the comments.

I have seven blogs, all monetized, but my readers do not click on the ads! They read and respond to the story or information I share. This is the basis for Social Media, and is the reason I started blogging last year. not to make money, I do that elsewhere on the web 2.0 highway.

My reasons for blogging are to share what little I know, and learn from those who do.

Respectfully,

Nicholas Chase
www.twitter.com/nachase

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Adam Singer — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:18:00 -0000

The ONLY problem the way I see it is packaging things like IZEA does for paid blog posts kind of cheapens what is possible through organic PR. It doesn't just hurt the PR industry, it hurts companies when they want to engage in unique promotions that generate buzz without handing over cold hard cash to bloggers. Just sayin.

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adamkmiec — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:21:29 -0000

@mark ivey-

after watching the election coverage, I'm convinced that the concept of journalistic integrity, lack of bias, and reporting based on facts is long gone.

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John Haydon — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:52:31 -0000

Most of the time when people angrily criticize another, they're usually just mad or jealous. 10% of the time it's righteous, but 90% of the time it's just a temper tantrum.

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chrisbrogan — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:40:36 -0000

I have the most thoughtful, intelligent, motivated group of people here in the comments than any blog in the world. I'm grateful for your attention and your ideas. These conversations shape my thoughts and opinions, and hearing your perspective helps me grow.

Thank you.

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mark ivey — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:27:22 -0000

"There's simply less journalistic integrity"
I don't agree with that, at least when it comes to the traditional news media--WSJ, BW, NYT. They've had lapses, of course, but it's overstating it to say it's a total breakdown of journalistic integrity.. They're "reporting" as much today as 20 yrs ago, and as far as I know, with the same stringent standards and checks and balances (though on a faster time schedule).
Of course, they're moving to more opinions, editorials, twittering, blogging, etc--but they've been doing that for many years. Hopefully the journalism standards will prevail as they move to new mediums like Twitter. If they don't, then you'll be proven right. But I think they will--their pubs brands depend on it.

What we have had is an invasion of the pseudo-journalists--the CNBC talking heads for instance...all opinion, gun slinging "journalism". Then the rise of the blogger news sites like Huffington Post, Tech Crunch. Their standards and systems will vary but some are extremely opinionated, giving observers an overall sense that there's a breakdown in journalism standards. I know some bloggers will challenge these opinions, but I'm not taking up for the established media, which is now in serious trouble. All I'm saying is we need to avoid broadbrushing everyone with the same label.

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CarolynWood — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:26:02 -0000

Bloggers tell stories of human experience whether content is personal, professional, soulful or snarky. They chronicle the human condition at a precise moment in time.

Questions - Will their insights be archived for the ages, to be studied by anthropologists in the future? If not, is the value of blog participation reduced?

Blogging and other forms of social media expand communication. The social media feature of posting of comments provides opportunities to encode and decode information in a common space – and isn’t that what communication is all about regardless of how you do it?

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adamkmiec — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:42:08 -0000

@mark ivey -

interesting point about bloggers vs. journalists. there's simply less journalistic integrity these days. the concept of reporting doesn't seem to exist - it's more about opinions and conjectures...which are often what bloggers do. it doesn't help that Google news lumps blogs and "traditional journalists" together http://news.google.com/