I am so, so glad you posted this, Chris. I have the opportunity to provide media coverage to a major trade conference next August, and I just pitched a PR proposal that more or less mirrored everything you just said. I am going to follow up with a link to this entry, however, to show the foothold these ideas have in "the world" (I'm a relative unknown at this point). Thanks!!
Connie Crosby
· 1 year ago
Nice perspective on these ideas, Chris. I just, um, posted this to Delicious which should feed into Friendfeed and a couple other places, and also shared with my friends on Facebook. Hopefully more people will start taking part in the annotated world. ;-)
Cheers, Connie
frank
· 1 year ago
Hey Chris ... have you checked out http://www.whrrl.com/ ... if you have or know someone who Has i'd love to get some feedback on it.
I've not used BrightKite yet, but it sounds similar to whrrl - not sure though?
At any rate ... it's incredible what we are able to do ... we can 'map our footprint' all over the place if we so choose to.
It takes time and engery, no doubt about that, but it's amazing to think we can do such things.
I think figuring out how to use these tools with purpose is one of the biggest challenges people face. i can't tell you how many of my friends or people i talk to say 'why would you do that' or 'what the point' ... sometimes people don't get it ... and if you can't show the purpose or value then it's just a lot of us tech geeks having fun with shinny new tools (new tools & apps are fun though)
Awesome point. I've also started using BrightKite because of their application.
James D Kirk
· 1 year ago
And think about how smart you'll look to the majority of people that know little to nothing about all this stuff. Using Chris' example about the coffee, if I were in the vicinity, had gotten that tidbit of info and then suggested we go to the Dunkin Donuts just west of the hotel we were staying at because the coffee was the pits, my family and friends would think I'm psychic! Or just highly tuned into the secrets of the annotated world ;)
Adele McAlear
· 1 year ago
Great timing Chris. Just tonight I was reviewing some of my lesser-used social networks, trying to catch up on friend requests there, updating profiles, and then making sure that they're set up in Ping.fm. The reality is, I don't have time to go to each of these on a regular basis, but I realize that I am missing opportunities to connect with people outside of my established networks. To remedy that, I'll try using Ping.fm to update all of these secondary networks on a regular basis, so as not to leave them abandoned and dusty. These tools are out there to be used, but managing the volume of accounts, can be a challenge.
chrisbrogan
· 1 year ago
@Adele - I don't use them the same way. I don't need noise in all of those spheres to equal my participation, so instead, I use them differently. I use BrightKite to annotate the world. I use Facebook as an outpost to share what I do here. I use Twitter a thousand ways. I don't want them to be in parity. Just doesn't seem as valuable.
For me the next bg growth in killer apps and business opportunities will not be in feature based applications for task orientated activities. Its going to be in utilities and small applications that knit the meta data about the information in ways tha create context to those viewing it.
The Tagging, Location Reporting, Reviews, Twitters, Photos and Video posted live from an Event when brought together by common associative data will be another level of use which as yet we are all unfamiliar with working with.
Whilst this may sound like the mad ramblings of a early morning blog commenter bare with me and look at your post, your talking about the output of many different applications and how they are knitted together. So consider this post filed under a new Evernote notebook titled 'People who are seeing the next big thing'
Right now I need another coffee.
Cheers Chris.
Paul L'Acosta
· 1 year ago
Chris, I think the problem we're going to have for some time is the ease of use of all these platforms floating around.
I've been an avid follower of all things social but to tell you the truth, it should "scare the poo" out of everybody right now. We'll be traveling some rough waters during the next few years until the dust settles down. The vast majority of consumers (aka the average non-technical homo-sapiens that just want answers) get overwhelmed with what they can do on "X" platform but they have to go to "Y" to finish what they were looking for. Case in point, what you say up there on your post, that you use several platforms differently... but do you use Google to search for DVDs and Ask.com for VHS and MSN for VHS-to-DVD recorders?
Google made it simple and EFFECTIVE (searching, that is). Now you have everything from maps to docs to, you name it on the same portal. Everyday I find myself with several windows open on my laptop and it gets overwhelming from time to time. THAT'S what I think our problems are going to revolve around for some time.
We have dozens and dozens of tools (and new ones popping up everyday, where "beta" is the king) but people, us and organizations, we just want to get a message from point A to point B and get some feedback while we're at it. Google heard noise and came up with Alerts. Made it simpler and again, effective. If the roads that lead us to our "beehives" are obstructed, we'll never get to meet and share.
You needed video? YouTube understood what you needed and users were able to build a community around it. You needed a place to hang out with your friends? MySpace understood it and made it simple to create a community around it.
I think (and that's only my humble opinion as an avid user of SM tools) what we have right now is incomplete tools (noise?) that need to be consolidated to be effective. You and I and lots of others know how to use them for the most part (until they come up with an update, which is every 4 days on average); but what about Joe Doe, the regular consumer looking for answers? And talk about training a company that has no idea on social media and telling them: "Well for this you need to go here, but for that you need to go there. And if you really want to have a clear picture, try this and that".
You say you went recently back to BrightKite because of the iPhone app. But what if Twitter starts offering a mapping service when you use search and voilá, there is your result with a map and a pic along with all the tweets from your network. So long BrightKite? I find myself jumping back and forth between software all the time.
That's what I think the challenge (and our focus) should be. Take this scattered environment and make it one that is both effective and easy to use for the masses.
Thanks for your always-challenging posts that puts all of us to think!
Mike Smith
· 1 year ago
Nice post and definitely a lot of good points. I agree with Paul above me. Pidgin.im does well in syncing all of our IM clients together so we don't need to have 10 programs open at once. Now, if it could add twitter and a couple other items, it would be a god-send to me.
For the non-tech-savvy user, all of these options are going to overwhelm at first, but for those of us 'in-the-know' it's a great time to be social. I haven't used Brightkite yet, but I think I'm going to try it out soon.
Marshall Kirkpatrick
· 1 year ago
Note that posting to Flickr from your phone (by MMS) is *way easier* than you might think if unfamiliar! That's changed my relationship with the web. Fun post...again. :)
Jeff Winkler
· 1 year ago
>> This is related but not. It’s a fascinating book worth checking out of your library:
what book? looks like it got truncated.
David Alston
· 1 year ago
Hey Chris,
I love how you've framed this up - life's meta information. I'm definitely going to be using this in how I explain things to folks going forward. It's like we have this 6 sense that we just have to turn on with a little technology if we want to. Personally I'm fascinated that it exists and it's now so easy to access. I know others still are generally happen with their 5 senses only because they haven't experienced the advantages of the 6th. As you and I know the Twebinar format was a gentle nudge to help those experience the enhanced ability in hopes that they would explore it some more.
Great post ma man. Always something to make us think.
David
Knatchwa
· 1 year ago
Chris'
You make some great points and it is appreciated that you are sharing them, it goes back to the interdependance on bother personal and online communication, and building the bridge between the two can enable someone who just started travelling to follow this bridge to the new information and the better connected world. It is great information on Social Media and how the power stretches far beyond the moment.
THanks for the Head's Up, will have to implement these points in the coming months and after.
I could not agree more with your post - the fact that I have grown the site to a list of 55 leading social media agencies and consultants in 1 month - just through word of mouth (and no marketing $$$) shows the power of the Annotated world!
-colin
Quinton Salazar
· 1 year ago
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世界にタグを付ける。
Emily Williams
· 1 year ago
Interesting post. At Needish we try to not only find people the answers to their Needs in that minute but also create a database of information for the future. So that next time someone in San Francisco needs a moving service or someone in New York is looking for an apartment they can see not only recommendations from other people but also what companies are joining that conversation and offering good service.
It is a LOT of information, and I'm getting used to the idea that I can't know all of it, but it's out there for whenever I need to access it.
All Comments
Cheers,
Connie
I've not used BrightKite yet, but it sounds similar to whrrl - not sure though?
At any rate ... it's incredible what we are able to do ... we can 'map our footprint' all over the place if we so choose to.
It takes time and engery, no doubt about that, but it's amazing to think we can do such things.
I think figuring out how to use these tools with purpose is one of the biggest challenges people face. i can't tell you how many of my friends or people i talk to say 'why would you do that' or 'what the point' ... sometimes people don't get it ... and if you can't show the purpose or value then it's just a lot of us tech geeks having fun with shinny new tools (new tools & apps are fun though)
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http://twitter.com/franswaa
For me the next bg growth in killer apps and business opportunities will not be in feature based applications for task orientated activities. Its going to be in utilities and small applications that knit the meta data about the information in ways tha create context to those viewing it.
The Tagging, Location Reporting, Reviews, Twitters, Photos and Video posted live from an Event when brought together by common associative data will be another level of use which as yet we are all unfamiliar with working with.
Whilst this may sound like the mad ramblings of a early morning blog commenter bare with me and look at your post, your talking about the output of many different applications and how they are knitted together. So consider this post filed under a new Evernote notebook titled 'People who are seeing the next big thing'
Right now I need another coffee.
Cheers Chris.
I've been an avid follower of all things social but to tell you the truth, it should "scare the poo" out of everybody right now. We'll be traveling some rough waters during the next few years until the dust settles down. The vast majority of consumers (aka the average non-technical homo-sapiens that just want answers) get overwhelmed with what they can do on "X" platform but they have to go to "Y" to finish what they were looking for. Case in point, what you say up there on your post, that you use several platforms differently... but do you use Google to search for DVDs and Ask.com for VHS and MSN for VHS-to-DVD recorders?
Google made it simple and EFFECTIVE (searching, that is). Now you have everything from maps to docs to, you name it on the same portal. Everyday I find myself with several windows open on my laptop and it gets overwhelming from time to time. THAT'S what I think our problems are going to revolve around for some time.
We have dozens and dozens of tools (and new ones popping up everyday, where "beta" is the king) but people, us and organizations, we just want to get a message from point A to point B and get some feedback while we're at it. Google heard noise and came up with Alerts. Made it simpler and again, effective. If the roads that lead us to our "beehives" are obstructed, we'll never get to meet and share.
You needed video? YouTube understood what you needed and users were able to build a community around it. You needed a place to hang out with your friends? MySpace understood it and made it simple to create a community around it.
I think (and that's only my humble opinion as an avid user of SM tools) what we have right now is incomplete tools (noise?) that need to be consolidated to be effective. You and I and lots of others know how to use them for the most part (until they come up with an update, which is every 4 days on average); but what about Joe Doe, the regular consumer looking for answers? And talk about training a company that has no idea on social media and telling them: "Well for this you need to go here, but for that you need to go there. And if you really want to have a clear picture, try this and that".
You say you went recently back to BrightKite because of the iPhone app. But what if Twitter starts offering a mapping service when you use search and voilá, there is your result with a map and a pic along with all the tweets from your network. So long BrightKite? I find myself jumping back and forth between software all the time.
That's what I think the challenge (and our focus) should be.
Take this scattered environment and make it one that is both effective and easy to use for the masses.
Thanks for your always-challenging posts that puts all of us to think!
For the non-tech-savvy user, all of these options are going to overwhelm at first, but for those of us 'in-the-know' it's a great time to be social. I haven't used Brightkite yet, but I think I'm going to try it out soon.
what book? looks like it got truncated.
I love how you've framed this up - life's meta information. I'm definitely going to be using this in how I explain things to folks going forward. It's like we have this 6 sense that we just have to turn on with a little technology if we want to. Personally I'm fascinated that it exists and it's now so easy to access. I know others still are generally happen with their 5 senses only because they haven't experienced the advantages of the 6th. As you and I know the Twebinar format was a gentle nudge to help those experience the enhanced ability in hopes that they would explore it some more.
Great post ma man. Always something to make us think.
David
You make some great points and it is appreciated that you are sharing them, it goes back to the interdependance on bother personal and online communication, and building the bridge between the two can enable someone who just started travelling to follow this bridge to the new information and the better connected world. It is great information on Social Media and how the power stretches far beyond the moment.
THanks for the Head's Up, will have to implement these points in the coming months and after.
Knatchwa aka Ray Marr
Thanks so much for the mentioning the Constructing Social listing service (http://constructingsocial.com/builders/)!
I could not agree more with your post - the fact that I have grown the site to a list of 55 leading social media agencies and consultants in 1 month - just through word of mouth (and no marketing $$$) shows the power of the Annotated world!
-colin
世界にタグを付ける。
It is a LOT of information, and I'm getting used to the idea that I can't know all of it, but it's out there for whenever I need to access it.