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usb flash drive — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:47:46 -0000

I'm advocating. Gentle nudge that reminds us how we incredibly rude to companies that are trying to add social media tools that you can be on every alleged crime laws as a company ban And it is not wrong "and sometimes juggle their marketing and communications can drop a ball.

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trafalgar03 — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:03:15 -0000

Great post, and i agree with you about social media rules.

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Timberland shoes — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:43:24 -0000

I like what you said.

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akku — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:34:59 -0000

I agree with you chris but the rules put on by the social media is need to be followed by each and everyone who visit the pool side.

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Dan Thornton — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:29:28 -0000

Funnily enough this reminds me of a post I made back in January, when I had already started to get bored of endless guies to 'Twitter Etiquette'

One rule: Try to make other people's lives suck a little bit less!
http://www.140char.com/2009...

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itsonlywords — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0000

What is this "tweet too much" of which you speak? I'm confused.

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sirvan — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:13:10 -0000

Great post.. It seems that you are a sociologist. Keep it up.

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Charli Gamble — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 09:43:11 -0000

I have noted that more often than not, I see people tweeting that they will unfollow anyone who does "X." Social Media is based on personal preference. Like you, I do not believe that rules are necessary, and frankly, I think everyone really needs to get their panties out of a bunch. If someone does not like a tweet, all they have to do is ignore it.

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Arjan Zuidhof — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:08:49 -0000

I was having a real deep "Tragedy of the Commons" feeling after reading your post. In a slightly different context, but you describe the same principles. Thanks!

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Joe Kohli — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:02:41 -0000

Thanks Chris. I am one of those guys that have written things at which people have probably rolled their eyes. I do much better when there is a rule book. I am grateful for the guidance you dispense with each of your posts.

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James Schipper — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:58:29 -0000

I've found that phenomenon strange. So many people telling everyone else that the way they use something is wrong. Everyone has personal tastes, likes and dislikes. Twitter has an enormous population of people claiming, "Yer doin' it wrong!"

I understand trying to help people realize that what they are doing is annoying, but ultimately it's easy to just not follow them ("Dude, disconnect Blip from twitter, I can't have every song you listen to clog my stream.").

Blogs are another biggie as you know, but I've always thought of it as it's your house, not mine. If I don't like the rules, I'm free to leave. Nobody is going to stand in my living room berating me, why would I let them on my webspace?

Oh, and the water just got warmer where I am standing :-)

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Yair Olmert — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:47:31 -0000

That's a good one. In Israel there are some ppl trying to educate the community to surrender to their caprices. They feel like Twitter was invented by their father as a birthday gift and as if it's their own toy. The problem is that they scare others and take over ...

I recently founded Finesse140 Ltd. & suffer a lot of this barbarians.

http://finesse140.com/
http://yairolmert.com/
http://www.facebook.com/finesse140

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Chris Brogan — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:39:49 -0000

Bingo!

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Christina Katz — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:54:13 -0000

Thanks for this post, Chris. I agree completely that when I read a blog post and someone makes a blatant statement about how others are not doing it right, I really wonder about them. A lot of times, I think they are more focused on the crowd than they are on following their own instincts.

Our mother's cautioned us about this ("If everyone else was jumping off a bridge, would you just off too?") I'm not at all offended if you make money doing what you do. I feel like you aim for full disclosure and that's good enough for me.

Otherwise, what am I, the Chris Brogan police? I don't think so. I have plenty of other things to do and think about in the running of my own career.

When I see someone else doing something I don't appreciate, I don't waste energy rolling my eyes (which would seem to imply that I feel superior to them, which is absurd in and of itself). Instead, I simply make a mental note: "Don't do THAT." And get back to my own business.

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Zena Weist — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:39:11 -0000

I'll be using your quote: "Now, you might think I’m advocating for rules. Au contraire. I’m advocating that you stop looking at every perceived transgression of the rules as a company not getting it and doing it wrong." This gentle nudge reminds us how incredibly harsh we can be on companies that are trying to add social media tools to their marketing and communications juggle and might occasionally drop a ball.

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Michael Benidt — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:58:32 -0000

This certainly does not apply to you, Chris, but I’d love to see a rule that people can’t offer themselves up as social media experts when they write one thing and do the exact opposite. I don’t know how many “social media experts” say that you should “become part of the conversation,” and yet never comment on other people’s blogs (or even answer questions on their own blogs).

To be clear, I don’t think there should be a rule that you must “become part of the conversation,” but I do think that it’s BS to teach it and then not do it.

If you want to have some fun you can use Backtype.com (just be sure you are in the “People” tab of Backtype, not the main page) to find out who comments on other people’s blogs. Just type in the name of your favorite social media expert (oh, say, maybe someone who’s written a “bestselling” book about the power of Twitter) and then compare them to Chris Brogan, Brian Clark or some other legitimate social media expert.

It’s fun, it’s educational, it’s addictive – and it might even help convince everyone to support my new social media rule – “Practice what you Freakin’ Preach.”

Note: I have no connection with Backtype.com and know you've written about them in the past, Chris, but they are very cool.

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monica levy — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:58:28 -0000

sometimes the rules need to be overly strict to protect those who don't have the same skills as more experienced swimmers. companies (especially those in pharma and healthcare) are highly reluctant to participate because their comments -- or their enabling of the comments made by others -- may be misconstrued by some people, resulting in dangerous situations and ensuing lawsuits. smart people know that just because something's on the web doesn't make it the truth and will consult their doctors before taking action -- but others (especially those who are desperate) will read something and, just because a company's logo appears, think that whatever advice another person provides means its ok to follow irrespective of the situation.

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annblackman — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:50:34 -0000

So true. It made me think of way back to February 2008 when I joined twitter and one of my first followers was you and I promptly blocked you! I REALLY didn't get twitter and didn't get why someone who didn't know me personally would follow me. I think I'm getting it better these days, and I really do appreciate it that you didn't hold it against me!

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ColoradoLH — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:44:56 -0000

Ahhhhh ... a voice of sanity amid the noise, the rule-screamers, and the overly defensive.

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Chris Plamann — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:15:25 -0000

Spot on, Chris. You're point here is well taken and is similar to @dmscott's post regarding punk rock social media of a couple months ago.

Those first into the pool have a tendency to impose rules according to their vision for, in this case, the developing medium. Not that there shouldn't be standards, but growth is achieved through pushing boundaries.

I don't believe social media to be a wading pool - with the same depth and dimensions. Think there is room for a deep end, a couple of volleyball nets and maybe even a crazy spiral slide.

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Suzanne Vara — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:32:26 -0000

There are not rules, more norms. You can tweet, post, etc anything that you want however being accepted is another story.

Great post.

Suzanne

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debbie_h2o — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:20:53 -0000

I don't have time to waste on judging how other people use social media - social media, is just like LIFE - you get out of it what you put into it. I only want to work with people who are ready to recognize that social media can possibly change their expectations about everything, and they're ready to explore and take some risks, to find out what is actually right.

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Kevin Behringer — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:06:19 -0000

Chris:

I think that the people that rail against making money from social media often do it because they CAN'T make money from social media.

And I'd say that looking at what you're doing is a pretty good indicator of what the "rules of the pool" should be...

Kevin