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And ironically, only after you really start blogging do you realize what you'd done wrong.
Great advice for new bloggers.
This is a good post. It is hard to keep going when you're not sure if anyone is even reading your posts or not. I love comments, as we all do. I am trying so hard to provide good content for people, it would be great to get more feedback.
I know - persist, persist, persist!
Perhaps this will help with more comments...just hope they aren't "your blog sux" :) If they are...I'll just have to write better!
I've been blogging for 2.5 years and am fortunate to have built a small, loyal community. I began podcasting last August. We get the occasional comment on the podcast blog. I'm waiting for the day when someone sends us an audio comment.
1) Make your point, but exaggerate how strongly you feel about it by 10%
2) Don't put the other side to the case - let others do that
3) 'Forget' to mention something
It's a good way to get started. These days, I have to ratchet my feelings down by about 20% because I have really strong feelings about some things that some of my really valued readers strongly disagree with. You want to divide your audience enough to provoke debate, but you don't want to send people away - so the controversial must be couched within the genuinely useful.
I suspect there's a magic button for blogs of all types. For me, because I write for the independent music industries, I only have to mention copyright reform, free mp3s or the word 'piracy' and everyone comes out of the woodwork for a bit of a rant.
The latest post on New Music Strategies is a pretty good example of that.
This is great encouragement Chris!
I've since tried to make an effort to leave a comment when visiting sites - balancing commenting for comment's sake with trying to engage in the conversation with the blogger.
Nothing gets me more jazzed than getting an email that says "you have a comment"! I know it shouldn't be *why* I blog, but it's something that really feeds the desire to keep going. I actually wrote about it here:
Have a wonderful, new year, and keep writing! We're reading!
aw, thanks! my blog is up and down and it's great to get encouragement and "real life stories" from folks like you.
xo,
SL
This observation is so true. However, there might be a solution - what if all bloggers create a community called 'Nudge Me' and they comment on each others to cultivate a sustainable discussion...
twitter.com/pinakis
Write for your readers, write to be read. Don't write *just* for responses. Like Ryan says above, sometimes the comments are as good, if not better than the original piece, but you have to help make that happen.
Another question though - do your posts need a response? Do they ask for one? Does your reader know that you'd like to hear from them? Is it easy to leave a comment on one of your posts? Do your readers know how to?
One of the most popular posts I've ever written was "How to leave a comment on a blog" - have a look and see the responses from people who genuinely didn't know how to.
Your last paragraph is great advice for bloggers and is what I do too. :)
Years ago, when I started my first blog, comments were few and far between. it took months, but now my posts average about 30-40 comments (and about 12,000 hits a month) small potatoes for some, but manageable for me. It took about a year, and all I did was keep blogging - because I just enjoyed writing. I now have a thriving readership. I mention this because I have some experience of how long it can take. I remember very well get few if any hits.
The other thing is track your stats. You can see that people are reading your posts, and even that many come back time and again. I've had readers lurk for years and then out of the blue they'd start commenting. They'd tell me they'd been a reader for months and enjoy my blog.
When someone comments on your blog it's time out of their day, so I always appreciate it. Comments are a gift, not a right.
I would add this however - in addition to commenting on other blogs is 1) acknowledge comments when people make them on your blog - I still respond to my commentators even though I'm busier than ever - and 2) if someone leaves a comment on your blog why not go over to the commentators' blog now and again and, assuming you have something to add, leave a comment on their blog too? I try to make a point of visiting new blogs when I can to leave comments. i just don't say inane things like "great post" which adds nothing.
I blog aout various topics but all of them are relevant to what I do and to my audience. I have some blogs that never get any comments and some that have lots. I do watch which ones get the most feedback and try to make future blogs relevant to the popular topics.
Happy New Year.
But I love that you remind us that our ideas are just as valuable being out there at all. It's so easy to hide behind lack of conversation as a barrier to sharing, which is really cart before horse when you think about it.
I haven't read your early stuff, Chris, but I suspect we're all benefitting from that journey of yours.
Yes, blogging is very personal and we all take things very personally etc when we get no comments.
But aside of this self-pity, isn't it worth wondering about the impression 'no comments' on all the front page posts leaves on the new visitors? And therefore to ask if and how the blog is contributing to the blogger's aims?
The aims should drive the blog, not the other way round.
Personally my metric is to see how many people clicked on how many links and which ones were most popular outgoing links. :-)
krissy knox :)
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A very happy new year
I kinda cheat the system of my own mind a bit. See, I respond to every comment I do get individually so when I go to the post page it looks like double the actual amount and tricks me needy little writer's ego to think I'm twice as popular as I really am!
(sighs...)
George
I only started my blog a few weeks ago though, and I have not posted the blog link to any of my sites so I don't truly expect anyone to come there, seeing as no one I know, knows about it..
Yes, you can find my You Tube channel through my blog, but you have to find my blog in the first place. Why have I not promoted it?
I don't know really, fear? Maybe, because I am so new and don't really have a theme, topic, or idea of what I really have to say and if anyone would really care? Right now, there is no pressure, I know I am writing to no one and its ok with me. Maybe because the blog is just my diary really, little useless notes and memories, gig photos, links to videos, etc. etc. Maybe I am not ready for people who know me, to see it yet. I don't know, but the lack of comments really doesn't worry me at this point.
We shall see what the future holds though, I may get bored of talking to myself soon, if that is the case, I will keep your encouragment in mind!
:)
I know it is different for me depending on the blog.
With MizFit it is a lot about the comments and the community.
With other blogging I've done it was far less so.
Miz.
I often wish there were more, but then I'm greedy for info and communicative interaction. 2009, my aim is to try and engage my community more, because at the end of the day, they are the passengers on the bus - I'm just the driver trying to make sure they enjoy the ride.
The Truemanity Group
The Wisdom of Thomas L. Friedman
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What I have noticed that people love it when I put up my insights and answer to those yet they do not feel free enough to initiate conversation.
I belong to groups of other creators and they have an agreement with the group to participate and it is a really good may of building relationship of value.
But I really think that RSS feeds have led to a large decrease in the number of comments that blogs receive. I know that is why I don't comment nearly as much as I used to. I read a blog in Google Reader and then just keep scrolling down, instead of taking the time to go back and comment. I wrote a quick blog entry about it awhile back, but will not link to it as I am new here and am not worried about driving traffic to my site, I don't blog for that reason.
One of my goals for this year is to actually read the comments to an interesting blog and then comment on the blogs that I read if I have something to say. Chris this is the second blog that I have commented on today :). Besides I have enjoyed reading and getting caught up on your blog. I used to subscribe, but during my great G-Reader purge in October you were one of the casualties of the infamous "delete" key, I had forgotten how much good advise you provided in the past. I am back and enjoying reading your work.
Harold
Hopefully it'll pick up as the audience for the blog grows.
Thanks again!
It's always nice when someone who's making it reminds us that they were'nt an "overnight success" and that they went through the same steps that we need to go through to be successful.
Doug
Happy New Year (can't be any worse than last year)
Yet at the same time I welcome comments and get that this is one way to judge the effectiveness of your words and how many people you are reaching.
I did set myself a goal for this month of 100 comments on my blogs. And I can see how commenting on other blogs will lead people to see what I have to say and may have them click on my info on that comment and go to my blog and comment.
I like having the blog conversation as I write my posts. I am thinking of using converting software like Dragon Naturally Speaking to create my posts. Is anyone using this or other software for their blog posting?
I also welcome guest posts on my two blogs as well.
My first blog is on the subject of Business Coaching and how it helps businesses.
Blog#2 is All Blog All The Time, where I mainly focus on profitable blogging, traffic generation, SEO, PR, content and the like.
Enjoy the New Year.
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Mark
@Mark_Ayers
I am reading your blog since october and i really love it. It's very interesting and so sensitive too. I will probaly use this post to many things in my live in 2009. And I will use your words to inspire me: " Keep trying. Persist. Try new things. Experiment." Thank you for share your thoughts.
Bert
Bloggers using backtype can benefit directly from their comments, but ask yourself what benefit your audience gets from commenting. Then make those benefits clear to readers.
I've read a lot of your articles, I follow you on Twitter, click sometimes on links that you suggest and I am thankful to you, because I learnt a lot! Thank you!
But, still, I have very few comments. I love when I get one (one, yes, one!), I feel immediately connected to the person who commented.
It is a generous act, that opens to new perspectives.
I must admit that I prefer few comments, but of value.
I am commenting for the first time on your blog and it is because I saw your message on Twitter a few minutes ago.
So, I'll do my homework and read and comment on 3 blogs mentioned here.
YOU, you can easily comment to my last post, by finishing this sentence:
You know it's the crisis, when.....
Think out of the box!
Thank you Chris, again, for your practical advice.
For the encouraging words....
-Aad
"I know what I was doing wrong." -- Can you explain? I've read several articles on creating a voice, serving a niche, and networking but writing a blog itself is still a gray area. I'm hesitant every time I begin another post because there are so many ways to blog, especially unsuccessfully.
Thanks for writing this. It's always encouraging to know that others are and have been in the same place.
I've thought about this commenting on blogs issue a lot. I've been a professional writer for most of my life, so I never considered the possibility that not everyone takes to words like a fish in water.
It wasn't until I started teaching blogging for beginners that I realized that some (lots?) of people are intimidated by commenting—and the actual act of writing itself.
They've been told over and over again to "say something meaningful," that their credibility is on the line when they leave a comment. They know they must "add to the conversation," and not just say, "I agree" or "nice post."
And I get Darragh's point. I blogged live from biznik.com's BizJam event last summer. I was amazed at the number of smart professionals—friends and colleagues— who were hesitant to leave a comment about the conference on my blog. Some of them did not know how to do it!
I see in the number of page views that people are reading my posts. I hear from them in personal e-mail messages. But I admit that comments are more exciting to get.
I plan on hanging in there, ending more posts with questions (which sometimes I forget to do!) and continuing to comment on other blogs. It all helps. Thanks for the encouragement, Chris.
I'm not a social media blogger. I'm a genea-blogger. Nonetheless, I have used some of the many ideas & tips you have shared over the past year. Thanks. Happy New Year.
Kathryn
I'm getting a bit of traction by reaching out via comments, linking to other blogs, social networks, etc. I don't think anyone can go wrong building relationships and trying to add value to the communities they participate in. All the best for 2009 and beyond.
I am soo inspired by your posts, and wonder why I just did not start blogging earlier. I am waiting for my new personal blog to be prepared, and start blogging as soon as possible! :)
My commenting goes and up and down - depending on the type of the post I'm writing - if I'm made it conversational and personal - more comments. But, some of my posts that provide value .. have less comments.
Is commenting the only measure of success for blog content? What about bookmarked saves in delicious because people found it of value and they want find it again for later reference.
Just noodling around with this ..
Thanks for the encouragement and happy new year!
Good Hunting,
It can be hard for those of us who use their websites to generate conversations to feel like you are talking to yourself. Thanks for all of the inspiration and happy new year.
Thanks for maintaining a great site and addressing the "comment" issue. After reading the above posts, I can see how much comments mean to most bloggers. I haven't gotten to that point yet. I just started two blogs a little over a week ago and I love it, but not because I'm getting comments (which I'm not), but because I love the writing process. I consider myself a writer, more than a blogger. What is the difference, anyway???
Happy New Year!!
One thing I have discovered about myself during this first year of running a site is that I am the kind of person who does need a certain amount of effort validation. Not necessarily praise, just knowing that somebody noticed does it for me.
In the past few months I've made the effort to try and comment more and to reach out to other bloggers. It's made a world of difference and I feel refreshed and energized. It was a great decision for me.
I like what Polenth had to say about other ways people let you know they liked your post. My site has a forum and I do often link to posts I think others will find interesting, helpful or amusing or I tweet them or post them on Facebook or email them to specific people.
One thing I've learned recently is that even if people aren't posting comments, it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't reading. I've seen this with some of my blog posts which had 0 comments, but people have tweeted, emailed, or talked with me about their feedback and questions.
My plan in '09 is to keep listening, keep conversing, and keep writing.
Again, thanks for the post.
Thanks so very much for your thoughts, and also, thanks to those of you who went and visited the blogs of other commenters by clicking those people's names and following the links.
This is how community is done.
It seems as though it will come down to sheer willpower to maintain it.
I've found that I write because I enjoy writing, and enjoy publishing the news, rather than doing it for the engagement or for the money -- since my blog doesn't make much, I can't really do it for the money. I do it more for the love of blogging.
Great advice, Chris.
I'm planning to be more connected with the tech scene around Kolkata and India. I'm at a place also to help people make sense of social media and related networks/services and advise them on how to make it work for them. People told me that I was a "change agent" for a number of years now, but I never thought I earned that title until recently when real change happened inside my workplace -- using social media in an effective way. It took a lot of coaxing but we've come to an understanding that we have to be open and react to things in a faster manner. I'm happy with the changes. More about my goals for 2009 here: http://tinyurl.com/97yn53
happy new year!
Blogs aren't the most interactive of media and if you are looking exclusively for interaction you may want to give twitter a try rather than blogging.
http://www.twitter.com/mrohde
http://marc.rohde-net.us
would be good enough and the only comments I would get would be obscene ones. But I learnt better and I now understand that blogging is a two way operation and it is much the better for that.it was basically because I did not believe that writing
Resolution for 2009: get comments!
Jeff Korhan
Even So, your post has inspired me to comment more than I do on other people's blogs...There are so many great bloggers in the blogosphere ..So many blogs...So little time. =)
Maybe I need to rethink how I blog..
I do it so infrequently...
I suppose I feel I am not in the big leagues and happy in my little corner of the world....
Um! Good food for thought!
Thanks for sharing Chris.
So we post much longer posts. http://bit.ly/dtBq
The best we achieve is getting bookmarked on StumbleUpon, Mixx, Propeller, Digg. However the people from these bookmarking websites don't comment.
I'm not too worried if I don't get comments ... hopefully, they'll start to come more once my traffic goes up.
You just have to be consistent, post about what you enjoy and not give up!
you know what would be really cool to read? a post where you share with us what you did during the time span of getting 0 comments to starting to consistently get comments and returning readers.
you do many how to or list type posts that cover some great stuff so you may have sort of done this over time, but to get one post where you almost outline your strategy, practical action, what tools you focused on, what blogs you visited and commented on, etc...
not trying to be pushy :) ... this is just something that i'd be very interested in reading.
thanks for continuing to publish content that helps.
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http://twitter.com/franswaa
Asked directly.
Requested input on favorite topics / writing approaches.
Gone blatant in seeking some pass along help if readers found the blog helpful.
Shared the blog's objectives with a request for readers' takes on the plusses, minuses, interesting aspects, and recommendations for it (along with a prize opportunity).
Results are mixed (to put it positively) in generating comments. There are some really loyal readers who have been great at commenting, and some other really loyal readers who email and provide comments in person, but never leave anything on the blog.
Not sure that there's a secret formula, but if there is, it's still a secret to me.
Thanks for opening the dialogue!
Mike Brown
http://brainzooming.blogspot.com
This is a really interesting discussion. I am a fairly new blogger and I do not really expect to get any comments at this point- not yet.
The lack of comments does not bother me, as I can think of many reasons why readers would not necessarily go out of their way to leave a comment.
I guess that my focus, more than getting comments, is:
- Consistently delivering value and quality content to my niche,
- Making sure that my prospects/clients feel heard and know that they have the possibility to interact with me on my blog if they choose to do so,
- Making sure that my blogging supports my business goals.
... with these basics in place, hopefully comments will follow. If not, that is OK too. Blogging is already proving beneficial on so many other levels!
Yes guilty as charged but only on a post that I felt a Sunday post time didn't do it justice ;)
Even if somebody else already said it, I'll say it differently. Somebody, somewhere wants to read my comment (see, positive thinking) and even if that's not really true, the "You got a comment" email will help to improve someone's day. Look at me, following Chris Brogan's advice from two different posts at the same time!
I'm doing things that I'm interested in. I don't want to be some kind of blog slut that does some kind of song & dance to get people to like me. It's too much trouble. My blog is a useful learning tool that I have fun playing with. I'd like more comments, but if it doesn't happen then so be it!
I enjoy commenting on others sites, too. Good post -- it allowed me to express my thoughts on the subject.
It is very nice to be acknowledged
People, if you want comments, don't make it near darned impossible to leave one. Sorry, but we're all time-challenged and if you don't make it easy for me, click. I'm gone.
...Always remember the 96 second rule and the 90-9-1 comment rule.