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I think you can balance online success with a full-time job commitment but throw in a young family as well and it becomes too much. For me, it was easier to take the income cut and focus on making a success of what I really wanted to do, while still having the time and resources for my family.
Creating and maintaining a presence is a lot of work - especially if it is a hobby or a side project. The intellectual investment to read, comment and write blogs is massive - but fun.
But for how long? This may be a good strategy right now but pretty soon all media will become social. Twitter is on the tongues of every major news organization and celebrity. Facebook adds millions of users at a clip. People that have been using social media for awhile are getting used to integrating it with their life. In fact, these same people are choosing companies who operate with social media over competitors based on response time and overall interactiveness with community.
I definitely agree with you that deploying a social media strategy is not something to be taken lightly and one should not just start modifying people's job descriptions to tack on social media tasks. The major question here is, if you're not making inroads to building social media into your company's operations how long will it be before your company goes the way of the dinosaur?
Social media is word of mouth and instant communications technologized. It is empowering people to do so much more with their lives in every single aspect. People have gotten used to communicating with a phone. If you were to tell someone that they couldn't use the phone anymore they would be blown away. Of course there are some people who will not use the phone ever but they're in the major minority.
The point here is that social media is the newest communications device. It's only a matter of time before your customers demand you communicate with them how they want to communicate. In my latest article, "Social Media is hype. social media is real." http://tr.im/SMhype I speak about this further. I'd appreciate any and all feedback on it of course.
Thanks for being a thought-leader in this arena Chris. I'm sure this discussion will be an interesting one in the comments. I'm looking forward to it.
1. The myths of Social media
2. The concept that social media strategies are "bolt on's"
1. The myths of social media.
Among others
a. Social media is free. Social media is not free. Some of the tools and external social networks used may not require a direct, upfront fee, or paid up membership, but this does not equate to free.
b. Pushing your brand online does not lead to a "pull" situation. Buy in and relationships are not formed from a few online mentions, links and replies.
c. Using social media tools is the domain of the marketing person. Without organizational buy in, support and alignment, any social media strategy is difficult to maintain and will struggle to gain momentum.
2. Social Media Strategies are bolt on's.
This relates to point c above. Running a two week print campaign in The New York Times may be a very good strategy for some organizations. Following this mentality for your social media strategy will not work. A social media strategy has to:
a. Take a long term view
b. Take into account the real time expectations of online savvy audiences
c. Be targeted
d. Be relevant
e. Align with all other marketing initiatives
f. Have metrics and analytics attached
g. Grow, change, adapt, change direction, learn, remain fresh
h. Have whole system buy in
i. Be centred around content that can travel, grow and have value added to it. http://alasdairmunn.com/?p=460
Listen to Chris, he has a point.
Your point is cogent and well made, and should be obvious to people that engage in the space. Like any conversation, without meaningful participation, your contribution goes unnoticed.
Perhaps my favorite sentence in this post is "Reaching out and meeting new people and going to events that broaden your circle of potential connections takes time." Amazing that we would think that its any different doing that with or without our computer.
;-)
the nail is so big that so many people miss it.
it takes time, effort and strategy - there is no quick win and if there is then bully for them, but they are exceptions.
The biggest lesson I am learning (not learned) is that it takes a lot of patience.
And welcome to Middle-earth. I recognise the venue used by the juggler as Manners Mall, Wellington. I take it from your Flickr updates that you are here for Easter.
Enjoy! Wellington is a wonderful city.
Catchya later
While definitely not easy, I see social media -- essentially social media marketing -- for companies as being simple. (A company won't "do" social media if it doesn't see a business-oriented result; therefore I added marketing.) It's simple and requires faith and confidence.
Simple as you don't need a rocket science degree. The principles are pretty straightforward.
Faith that your product or service does what you say it'll do. You don't have to "craft" a message. Sure, you have to focus on its benefits, head off or answer any questions about its downside, and even explain how it works. But you shouldn't have to create something when there's no substance behind it.
Confidence in yourself and your people that they can be the voice of your company (once they understand what the products do).
Social media marketing is about not focusing on your company -- but focusing on your customers, prospective customers and other key influences. It's not easy, but think it's simple. Maybe too simple?
-Mike
Trying to explain that this is all very long tail and that they'll only get any real benefit if they invest the time and energy into it seems to get lost in translation so many times.
Whose to blame? Mis-information or to high an expectation? Has the social networking community managed to create a false impression (albeit unintentionally) that social marketing and networking is as easy as falling off a log?
I think many businesses will struggle or even give up on such networking attempts which is a shame but as has been suggested above, they will have to participate one day.
Reminds me of the days when businesses didn't think they needed a website.
Great post Chris (and some very good comments in return).
Jonathan.
It's funny, my initial sit-downs used to be so much different. I'd start off with a general overview of the tools best suited to a client's core objectives, and then I'd make the mistake of talking about their future options. By the time I concluded the meet and greet their heads were spinning.
What made perfect sense to me, having the benefit of experience, was frequently mind boggling to the client. Clients also have a proclivity to assign cost to EVERYTHING. Especially the creation of content, so while it's common for quick-sell artists to characterize social media tools as "free" or "low cost", the prudent social media guru recognizes the cost of the manpower, content creation, and outside expertise associated with all that listening, repackaging, and cross-linking.
Ask yourself which side of the fence you want to be in.
Anyway, this position was created as a part time gig about two months back and has now evolved into as absolute full time job. The response to our Twitter/Facebook Accounts has been awesome and next week, I will be launching our new blog TheNYKnow.com.
The funny thing about it is that when I took this job, it was proposed as an "easy" desk job with approx 10hrs a week invested in social media. Umm...NO! I work about 10 hours a day, 5 days a week. Being in the hospitality industry, just as any other, its all about commitment and service and THAT is how I take this campaign.
And in terms of getting your agency to do more, after working 3 years working in agencies I can honestly say that there is no better person to do social media than the brand itself, whether it be a major consumer brand, an artist, an academic or a non-profit. Social media is too transparent to have it done genuinely by someone other than you. Teaching the man how to fish has never been more relevant.
Teaching has become more and more important as the barrier for entry into the space becomes lower and lower. We have some really cool opportunities to work with companies that may not have dreamed of entering SM 1-2 years ago. We have to guide them and show them the best way to prosper and benefit.
The social media related content that I involve myself with in a semi-business manner is for the church. Here the intent and strategy goes beyond the personal benefits of stats and cool comments. Here the effort still towers of the difficulty but the benefits tower of the effort. Benefits as in making connections, discriminating information, encouraging stories, keeping people in the loop and keeping the message alive between Sundays.
In a meeting, a photo like this alone, could spark the conversation for my clients, who are afraid of social media or who underestimate how strategic they need to be. With one photo they would have a visual of how precarious, balanced and spectacular social media could be for their organizations.
On to the point ... it does take work! lot's of it. I don't think you can put an accurate time frame on it. We've been at this for about 6-8 month now where i work and it's only just starting to gain momentum. we're not cruising or anything close to where we would like to be one day, but 8 months later we at least have some legs. the blog is up and running. we've got some people very actively using Twitter and other outposts. the desire to write content for the blog is growing and we're starting to get subscribers to our RSS.
http://twitter.com/franswaa
Thank you.
AMEN, BROTHAH! I am so happy to see someone 'big' in the industry come out say that you can't just slap a profile up and watch 'em all line up to buy from you... that it takes time, persistence, and a bit of research to even figure out WHAT you want to do, say, project, etc.
I have time on my calendar weekly for blogging, twittering, and facebooking -- it's the only way I know how to manage SM as part of my business. Yes, it is part of my business. Yes, it's on the calendar for a reason -- because SM is so seductive that I can be sucked down a rabbit hole really easily (following links on twitter is my biggest time suck) so I need the little chimes from Outlook to keep me on task; or conversely, if it's NOT on my cal, I may forget to get there and update in the rush of getting up to speed with a new client, etc.
Thank you SO much for posting something that isn't all pollyanna-sunshine, but is also not negative. Keep tellin' it like it is, please!
Mary McD (@marymcd on twitter)
Great thought-provoking post. Interestingly, I have found that at my nonprofit org I need to have a plan for using these tools for two primary reasons: 1) to legitimize (for management) the value of building online communities and meeting people where they are at; and 2) to underscore the need for not just a long-term view but a holistic approach to how we position ourselves in the community.
Without a plan, our org likely would do one of two things: 1) run full speed ahead, blogging, twittering and friending like maniacs without any thought to purpose or expected results; or 2) avoid engaging online at all because they have no idea how to start.
By articulating a plan, I am able to bring these all-important questions to the forefront and forge a path that people can follow. That goes a long way toward buy-in in our org.
At the same time, I think investing in a full out strategy/plan can become a hindrance if you're not careful. You end up spending SO much time planning and researching and thinking that you never DO anything.
But it raises this question for me: If your org's internal culture isn't adapted for this brave new world, will simply trying to participate in these media force that change org-wide?
Usually those advancing this idea (that it is easy and does not take alot of time and effort) have an ebook or course for sale and have never actually used the web to promote anything other than there "how to" products.
Hildy
It would be great if we could just short-circuit the law of cause and effect, but we can't.
John
(Hi, Hildy!)
Social media is simple at the surface, but both complex and definitely time-consuming when you start to peel back the layers. I'm so tired of seeing posts and emails from social media "gurus" who claim they'll rocket you to social media fame and fortune in 7 easy steps. There's no silver bullet here, people. Each individual and brand needs to devise a customized plan for engagement in social venues. What works for one, may fail miserably for another. And ALL successful plans take time and elbow grease to execute well.
Although I agree with Yianni in comment #23 that - in a perfect world - the best folks to handle corporate social media are those who "are" the brand, I don't think that solution is always feasible. As a professional writer, I think that an outside party who is properly educated on the values and products of the company and brand can actually bring an important "outsider" view that benefits both the brand and its fans. In addition, she can provide a certain level of social media expertise that may not exist within the organization. Sometimes an in-house person can't see the forest for the trees, if you know what I mean.
As always - great post. Look forward each day to what you'll say next. Keep us on our toes, Chris!
Excellent article and so true. While it is often fun and always interesting, pounding the "virtual" pavement is a lot of work. And even though social media and the internet have made the introductions easier it still take a real person doing real relationship building to make it work. Thanks for a great post!
How do you do "relationship management" in social media? Here's what I mean:
What you're saying here is that social media takes time and effort in order to create anything that has long-lasting value. You nurture and grow connections on Twitter and Facebook, build business relationships on LinkedIn, and discover great new friends through your blog.
From a tactical perspective, how are you recording the "data points" that span the arc of these relationships (vocations, websites, birthdays, children's names, hobbies, quirks)?
Thanks,
John
Angela Connor | @communitygirl
Great post Chris.
Kevin
I wholeheartedly agree!
If you want to produce anything of great value in life, you must devote an enormous amount of effort, energy, and passion toward it. The sum of those three parts equal WORK. It doesn't matter if you're talking about parenting, becoming an accomplished musician, or, regarding your topic, a professional blogger.
As Donald Kendall once said, "The only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary."
I worked with a client last month that wanted to "cash in on the gold rush" and can't type. They approach the keyboard with two index fingers?!
The next thing to consider should be, can you write? Can you write enough---often enough and skillfully enough that the two dimensional world of text based communication becomes three dimensional in the mind's eye of the the reader?
Heck do you have a working knowledge of the basic rules of written English?
I was recently solicited by email with a "Marketing Tips" newsletter. The goal of the newsletter was obviously designed to expose the company to potential new clients. The flippin` thing was written in CHAT! The author posed three questions in a row, something that had to be extrapolated because punctuation used did not include question marks. The newsletter amused me, as I subsequently wrote of the company, their services and products and unsubscribed to their email list. With comments.
@edwardboches
Just hoping Social Media isn't turning into advertising.
Then we could better start reading the classifieds.
Hollie
I do not care about a headache, but I do know that I have a limited reading capacity.
I totally agree, if the companies are using social media just to sell. If companies use social media to actually build a relationship with their customers, to care enough to say happy birthday to people or recommend a good book or suggest a solution, then people will respond well. I think media companies have an especially good opportunity to use social media to really connect with readers and users and point them in the direction of content that suits their interests and needs. If my local bar / hospital / post office can do the same, I'll follow.
It does take a ton of time, though, and the only way it'll work is to have someone with a company take ownership of the platforms and act as both an advocate for the audience as well as the company.
New to blogging, I've made what feels like a full-time commitment, just launching my new blog this month, with about seventeen posts.
I'm also completing @problogger's 31 Days to Build a Better Blog, and in between writing posts, reading and starting to comment on other posts, promoting my blog, and keeping up with my tweets, I am more and more aware of just how much work social media involves.
I can see why you say, though social media is not rocket science, "...It does take a ton of time...and the only way it’ll work is to have someone within a company take ownership of the platforms and act as both an advocate for the audience as well as the company."
Social media is not something that organizations can do half-way. I think if you undertake social media, you need to make the full investment and really build relationships right & for the long-term. A superficial or half-hearted attempt at social media would be more detrimental to a company (that is, more insulting to customers’ expectations) than no online presence at all.
If you’re going to do it, do it right, and that's going to require a dedicated resource, with as you suggest, a lot more than a few extra bullets, tacked onto someone’s existing position responsibilities.
The many tweeters this month, including myself, who are falling behind @problogger's challenge: "31 Days to Build a Better Blog" (an excellent, excellent intro to blogging, by the way) can now attest to this post's title "Just as Difficult as it Seems,” though in a follow-up post, we can say, “Still Worth It.”