Chris Brogan: Is Google Putting a Horse Head in Cuils Bed
Pete
· 1 year ago
If it's a drive-by, it's pretty subtle.
The news results are always first. And all the news about Cuil is bad news.
chrisbrogan
· 1 year ago
Oh. Were they? Rats. : )
Frank Gruber
· 1 year ago
lol, good stuff Chris. Culi sure did launch with a pyrotechnics show!
Sam
· 1 year ago
Yahoo's news search results are about the same:
Cuil - News Results
Why Cuil Is No Threat to Google Time... - Jul 28 03:38pm Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search AP via... - Jul 28 03:45pm Cuil Stumbles out of the Gate PC World... - Jul 28 03:00pm
Mike Driehorst
· 1 year ago
Yeah, Yahoo! search and news search also included that listing about "no threat" at the top.
But, a Google news search for cool does bring up a Cuil news article at #4. -Mike
Jeff
· 1 year ago
Search is absolutely a battlefield. Propaganda my friends. I love the competitive nature of this type of creative strategy. Look at this unbelievable thing.... www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2
David
· 1 year ago
News is *not* always first in a Google ranking when there is news.
BuBBy Oxide
· 1 year ago
Does Cuil even work? All my searches yesterday resulted in Cuil whining that it was overloaded.
Also, the name Cuil is going to be their downfall. Only about 2% of the population is going to be able to remember that let alone spell it. They flushed themselves down the crapper right out of the gate.
Yael
· 1 year ago
That's funny, the first thing I had put on Cuil was Google... Well done on the #5!
Matt
· 1 year ago
What's more frightening: Google killing Cuil, or Cuil succeeding?
mike
· 1 year ago
Ironic that those results from Google give cause to wonder about google's search quality. It's hard to believe that this result was #4 - http://www.anses.gov.ar/cuil.htm. With all of the writing about Cuil recently, that page really deserves such high billing?
Matt
· 1 year ago
@David - But it usually is.
Dylan Atkinson
· 1 year ago
LOL, I like how you came up as number 5. They must have saw your complaints about how your results came up when you tested your name on Cuil :-)
*Strong technology focus on the part of the CEO, President, VP's of Engineering and Products *No Marketing focus per se. No VP Marketing, and VP Product has a technology rather than a marketplace focus. VP Communications has a good background in corporate comm, but that isn't a role that typically feeds back into product design and positioning.
Would their debut have been different had 1) Marketing been empowered on an executive level, and 2) the positioning been more refined? 'The World's Biggest Search Engine' may be accurate in a technical sense, but in the marketplace it's not credible positioning. Kind of like saying Fatty Arbuckle was the 'Biggest Star Ever' - technically true but irrelevant to what we'd like the word 'biggest' to convey.
Shawn Honnick
· 1 year ago
I searched the name of a somewhat obscure podcast with and without quotes. There are 200+ results for this found on Google, so it's well indexed and there are Facebook, twitter and other references to the name.
ZERO (0) results appear on cuil.
It looks pretty slick and maybe they're still ramping up, but when I search the web, I want to find the newest content for item or topic I'm searching. I'd have to agree that this story appearing as the top news result is relevant since the search is obviously inferior.
(one guess as to who's podcast I was searching;)
Jason
· 1 year ago
Even better is searching cuil for cuil. Oh, the hilarity.
Matt Cutts
· 1 year ago
Hi Chris, if your question is "Did Google change its rankings or otherwise do anything different for Cuil?" then the answer is an emphatic no.
As far as why your blog shows up at #5 when you search, perhaps you have personalized search on? To turn off personalized search, sign out from Google or add "&pws=0" to the end of your search url.
KaRi from ThePrimeSpot.com
· 1 year ago
YOU rank high!
Hey, why not hold a PODCAMP in Long Beach, CA? I'd love to promote that!
MarkWis
· 1 year ago
I think Cuil has a way to go and at this stage is not a threat or significant issue to Google. Let's not forget Google's built in audience that they developed with services ranging from Docs to Blogger.
On a related issue, I just wrote about how far Cuil has to go (in my blog on blogger *rolls eyes at self*) in regards to their sorting and presentation of certain information.
This is why I tend to go to Wikipedia first; although not the most difinitive (or unbiased) source, I often can get background on my topic before slupring off what the engines feed me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuil
TheSleepyGeek
· 1 year ago
This is interesting. I am curious as to why Cuil is getting this much publicity. They must be doing something right at the very least. There are all kinds of search engines starting up, some as simple as Cuil and some more fancy but this seems to be getting more attention for some reason. Not sure why, I checked it out... google still is at the top of the usability list for me.
rsomers
· 1 year ago
TheSleepyGeek, great point on the high publicity. Most startup search engines claim to be doing something substantially different from Google; semantic search, clustered search, etc. That gets around the 'you can't compete with Google' reflex.
Cuil's gotten a lot of pickup in press and blogosphere by the ballsy tactic of taking on Google headon. That gets pickup for the same reason I'd get response if I did a press release claiming I was going to fight Mike Tyson.
John McElhenney
· 1 year ago
Google google bombs itself. That's a sense of humor if you ask me.
ANdy
· 1 year ago
I haven't seen a clear positioning on why Cuil is better than Google. Why would I use Cuil over Google? Okay, they don't collect information, they have a nicer laid out results page and they use a different approach to the algorithm but I don't know what specific type of searches are better in Cuil than Google. Saying it's generally better doesn't help me and when I invariably test it out for myself doesn't set Cuil up for a good evaluation.
Philip Buxton
· 1 year ago
I was taught to only speak when I've got something nice to say so this is tricky, but are you really suggesting Google changed something so bad news about Cuil appears top? If so, that shows such a deep misunderstanding about how Google - and search engines generally - work, it's hard to know where to start...
Corporation Financial
· 1 year ago
Lack of a monopoly is healthy, if the new startup can pay dividends then maybe they can get along together. Did the C come from Google like Venom from Spiderman though? It could be breach of contract.
All Comments
The news results are always first. And all the news about Cuil is bad news.
Cuil - News Results
Why Cuil Is No Threat to Google Time... - Jul 28 03:38pm
Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search AP via... - Jul 28 03:45pm
Cuil Stumbles out of the Gate PC World... - Jul 28 03:00pm
But, a Google news search for cool does bring up a Cuil news article at #4.
-Mike
Also, the name Cuil is going to be their downfall. Only about 2% of the population is going to be able to remember that let alone spell it. They flushed themselves down the crapper right out of the gate.
Well done on the #5!
*Strong technology focus on the part of the CEO, President, VP's of Engineering and Products
*No Marketing focus per se. No VP Marketing, and VP Product has a technology rather than a marketplace focus. VP Communications has a good background in corporate comm, but that isn't a role that typically feeds back into product design and positioning.
Would their debut have been different had 1) Marketing been empowered on an executive level, and 2) the positioning been more refined? 'The World's Biggest Search Engine' may be accurate in a technical sense, but in the marketplace it's not credible positioning. Kind of like saying Fatty Arbuckle was the 'Biggest Star Ever' - technically true but irrelevant to what we'd like the word 'biggest' to convey.
ZERO (0) results appear on cuil.
It looks pretty slick and maybe they're still ramping up, but when I search the web, I want to find the newest content for item or topic I'm searching. I'd have to agree that this story appearing as the top news result is relevant since the search is obviously inferior.
(one guess as to who's podcast I was searching;)
As far as why your blog shows up at #5 when you search, perhaps you have personalized search on? To turn off personalized search, sign out from Google or add "&pws=0" to the end of your search url.
Hey, why not hold a PODCAMP in Long Beach, CA?
I'd love to promote that!
On a related issue, I just wrote about how far Cuil has to go (in my blog on blogger *rolls eyes at self*) in regards to their sorting and presentation of certain information.
http://imprudentnecessities.blogspot.com/2008/0...
At least I can find Google.
Not sure why, I checked it out... google still is at the top of the usability list for me.
Cuil's gotten a lot of pickup in press and blogosphere by the ballsy tactic of taking on Google headon. That gets pickup for the same reason I'd get response if I did a press release claiming I was going to fight Mike Tyson.