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Mike Johansen — Thu, 24 May 2012 12:05:14 -0000

So WTF is "post-media" this article talks and talks and says nothing and doesn't tell you what it is.

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joe DiStefano — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:07:32 -0000

The one voice is spot on... What we need to learn is how to harness that voice. Just think of what the post media world could be if WE ALL spoke with the same voice.
There would be no question that we could have 0 emmission cars; wind, solar, tidal and nuclear power generation; no more wars...

Some of this is really a pipe dream, but wow, how Roddenberryesque would it be? We already communicate with little
Devices... Who knows, maybe we should give this some more thought!

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Ronit — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:03:20 -0000

Wow Chris
You and I have very similar life philosophies. And I'm all game! I would totally love to collaborate with you on possible future projects...
My email address is tcbyer33@netzero.com and my name is Ronit.
Looking forward to keeping in touch...

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cabezas — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:57:30 -0000

Thank you. I have found myself contemplating this topic quite a bit recently as I find myself more and more drawn to YouTube, Miro, Hulu, and Joost. I watch broadcast TV b/c I work in media and I need to monitor what is going on in certain niche markets. (USHispanic) I know I am not alone, and if I am not alone, this marks the start of a tremendous transformation of how media is created and consumed {to echo your remarks}.

As you also said, certain media are not going anywhere. They will always be with and transform to adapt to changing times. But more and more digital, user-created media is taking the pie that was once shared in great part by TV, Radio, and Print. Exciting times!

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Allan McDougall — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:58:25 -0000

Ryan has a good point. A multitude of voices and perspectives is important, but they definitely don't need to be in concordance. I don't think any post-media conglomerate would agree anyway. What Chris means is that you find people with common interests and goals, but not necessarily the same viewpoint on the world--like, say, a cult. Just like Obama's case: there are a lot of people who voted for Obama who disagree on a variety of controversial topics, but the fact remains that they have one common vision: change.

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Shannon Ehlers — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:56:06 -0000

Nice job, as always. I'm not totally on board with the idea that we are in a "post media" world, but I agree with much of the message here. I really love all of the allegory and metaphor in use both in the post and in the comments.

Being a trained chemist and a radio enthusiast, I particularly like your radio analogy ("Tune your signal.") and your chemistry metaphors (atomization, molecules, etc). I also found zenpundit's herd allusion interesting.

I wonder if the Obama election wasn't more similar to a football team's win than the arrival of a herd or a flock. The difference? Each player has a unique role, rather than similar responses to a single stimulus (herd) or lead/follow response (flock). Each voter likely had individual, somewhat uncoordinated reasons for choosing Obama.

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chrisbrogan — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:46:14 -0000

How did Obama get made president? By a single voice standing alone? No.

That's my point. Only, that's just one implementation of the point. I could find you several smaller versions of the same.

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Ari Herzog — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:10:12 -0000

The moment a crowd is converged into a single voice is the moment diversity dies.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, Chris, but I'd rather view America (and the world) as a mosaic of cultures, each having something different to share, than a Utopian-like master race.

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Ryan Roylance — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:53:58 -0000

"Because what comes next, I believe, is that you gather together the people who share your views. You reach out and connect with those who understand your goals, who share them, who breathe them in the same pulse."

This sounds Utopian, but often manifests as conformity. I am not disagreeing, rather just worrying about the possibility of people only searching out like minded individuals to share ideas and concerns with. It sounds like the beginning of online cults.

One of the beautiful things about the direction media is going (has gone) is how many points of view exist that truly allow people to consider all sides of an issue. The concept of only searching out like minded views through media is scary (I understand this was not your point and I am just trying to play devils advocate while be painfully pessimistic!)

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Katie Van Domelen — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:29:36 -0000

This was inspiring. There is definitely a tendancy to get wrapped up in ROI and latest technologies - it's all about how to capitalize, how can the client use it, how can my business use it and how can I grow my reputation with it. But this post reminded me why I fell in love with this stuff in the first place. It's about being a part of something, following your passion and finding people to connect with in a deeper and broader sense all at once. Using social media means we can make connections and help each other move forward, whether that's B2C, C2C, C2B, B2B or any other crazy combination of those things. Thank you for taking a second to step back and show us a simple view of the big picture.

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Barbara Rozgonyi — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:16:04 -0000

Hello Chris! I like the next action segment best. The whole piece reads like a meditation on how to be who you [we?] are. Would be fun to hear your read this one or see it as a picture book.
@wiredprworks on twitter.com

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Ellen Feaheny — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:08:50 -0000

I believe he is saying to the effect of to not grow and develop your community in product development or business development "is not an option" (internal collaborations, partnerships, third party developers, buyers, fans, online community, etc... all of them... ).

In other words, chose to work and develop and grow a business in a silo, and you will stay in a silo (in terms of success).

That's my take.

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Allan McDougall — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:48:42 -0000

What does "community is not an option" mean? Anyone want to expand on that for me?

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Ellen Feaheny — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:18:07 -0000

I drove by a store on El Camino in Santa Clara, CA the other day that had a huge sign in the window.

The store's name was "Instinct" - not sure what they were selling (sorry) - but they at least sold the message in the window:

"Waiting is like so last year!"

In response to some of the comments about "join together and do, not just talk" - that will happen - I am sure. The fundamentals behind the contacts is the same: people and relationships, but they are not instant of course, even though they stroke our egos with an initial "Follow". :)

Yet - to stop talking about the tools - I think that is wrong. TOOLS are the cornerstone to allow this evolution - be it Website tools, Enterprise collaboration, or interactive engagement tools.

The good news is that the tools finally are here, here to stay, and actually work after years in the making. Seems like some good learns from the dot.com bust bad SW days..

But you know all know this... obviously! This is the "clued in" group - but it is a huge world still...

Cheers, and nice article.

Ellen Feaheny
http://www.clifftop.us

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Shelli Johnson — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:52:12 -0000

Ok, from out on the frontier in Wyoming, I think I have figured Social Media out. : >

SOCIAL MEDIA=the Watercooler 2.0.

It's just people being people... Social Media is Word of Mouth ... about politics, passions, places... But instead of 5-7 people around the watercooler, you're engaging a global population of friends and family and coworkers that numbers more than 1 billion.

Social Media is just people being people, but we have better access to the conversation. The internet is our platform, instead of the watercooler and telephone.

Cheers, great thought-provoking post and thread here.
Thanks Chris and everyone,
Shelli

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Shelli Johnson — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:45:33 -0000

Whitney, thanks for your feedback. That's what I was thinking but appreciate your input very much.
Sometimes I feel selfish because I read and watch adn listen to more than I contribute. But it takes all I have just to stay on top of things, and I'm a mediasnacker on every level. I consume newspapers, print magazines, books, podcasts, online video, websites, social media, and have no time to contribute.
Also contributing really exposes you and this is a little scary for many, I think.
Fortunately the internet as a platform, aka twitter, facebook, blogging, etc., enables people to socialize in a way that's not as threatening as it might be physically, and as a result the information is more democratized and there's more of it!
Thanks again everyone for your input,
Shelli

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steve — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:45:12 -0000

The conversation is not new the context is.
Read McLuhan, Postman, etc.
My interest is to focus on the functionality within a medium and the behaviors within a media environment.
Less interested in the labels or the people that espouse the labels.
There is a lot of wheel re-inventing going on in this "post-media" world.

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zenpundit — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:42:35 -0000

Cohesion and attraction of likeminded people is good. To a point.

That point is limited by the phenomenon of groupthink and the sort of intellectual sterility that comes with being in a herd. Sheep find a sheepdog useful, even if they don't like him much. Our critics can see our limitations more clearly than can our followers and collaborating with peers in completely unrelated domains generates more novel insights than collaborating with people who share the same social culture and frames of reference

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Whitney — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:40:06 -0000

Hi Shelli-

I think what we have in social media is the kids who were kinda geeky in high school, and were often overlooked, more than we have the captain of the football team. So I think it takes some getting used to that everyone does have something valuable to contribute to the mix. People who are "introverted" or shy by nature still have tons to offer- you just have to find a place and space where they feel comfortable doing so.
I interview a lot of people for my podcast, and at the heart of it, it's all about establishing a level of comfort and report, even with the shyest people- everyone loves to be understood and find birds of a feather- now we don;t have to live in the same town to find like-minded souls.

And take it from me- I thought I had the geekiest niche topic you could imagine- and more people than I thought possible actually think it's interesting, which gives me the courage to try more and more. So I think it's really less about extroverts and introverts than about willing to take some more chances and figure out what makes you unique and special, and how to share that with others.

I hope this makes some sort of sense....

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Matthew T. Grant — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:37:13 -0000

I'm not sure I understand what "post-media" means in this context (post-MASS-media, maybe?). I mean, as long as we are talking about connecting people via technology, then we are talking about media (in the sense of "mediating interactions").

Frankly, the more connected I get in this mediated way, the less connected I FEEL. In that sense, the atomized world you describe is depressingly accurate. In order to use these media (blogs, twitter, cellphone, etc.) we actually have to be separated in reality. Of course, we can participate virtually in broader, more flexible, and even more surprising communities via these media, but at the cost of a increasing physical isolation.

Face-to-face, in person conversation remains my favorite "medium" - not because it's post, but because it's "pre". I'm old school.

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Gina Kay Landis — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:29:41 -0000

I wondered when the terminology would change... "new media" now "post media" era?

So there are still doors to open, unless those larger entities intend to break down their own and welcome and funnel those tiny, granular moves into themselves, creating a textural and unbound, instead of flat, solid (dense, immobile) entity.

Who's to say the larger entities won't either open up or actually self-destruct under their burgeoning weight?

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Shelli Johnson — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:23:15 -0000

Chris, great insights, as usual. Thank you!
One thing I've been wondering is do you think Social Media's contributors, participants, etc. tend to be particularly social in nature, or do you find even introverts contribute and participate?
I ask this because by nature, human beings are social... But many of us, myself included, benefit more than we contribute. This isn't on purpose... we too are/can be generous.
Just curious if the leading contributors to social media -- those providing all the great content, insights and benefits -- tend to be extroverts, or are there also many introverts? I know, probably a very silly question, but one I was hoping your readers might have interesting feedback on. : >
Thanks!
Shelli

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Doug Firebaugh — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:27:45 -0000

"Put up your first signal. Get your voice out there. What happens next? Do people respond?" Great advice and great insight. New forms of reaching out are evolving right before our eyes and social media is leading the charge. "
"Community is not an option", not only is truth-but I believe is one of the evolving social media laws. Community -- no matter whether a marketer, writer, entrepreneur, or else, rules supremely -- and is the new forming "cell" that will eventually birth ideas that will change business and life as we know it. great post Chris.

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Whitney — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:18:33 -0000

I think of my web projects as being an architect- I am building myself, my curriculum, my work, brick by brick over time, like a house or a building I can be proud of and live in for the future. It's not instantly perfect, but it will become refined. But it takes patience to do this, which not everyone has when it comes to the 24/7 would we live in.

I'm in a stage where I am reflecting back on what's been accomplished over the past 2 years, and what I ned to do to take the next train forward. It's not perfectionism, but taking a moment to regroup and re-evaluate, with an eye towards the next jumping off point.

This is one of the reasons I love Chris Penn's work so much- he stays focused, involved, and takes all the data he currently has, with an eye towards how it might be useful or leveraged in the future. And I think you have done the same thing here- built a great platform for people to share ideas and communicate, and find other potential members of their larger tribe, even if we are all scattered geographically.