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What's next? Twitter, I agree is awesome. but couldn't we just listen to some "smooth jazz" every once in a while without everyone knowing which song we listened to...
As for follow-up, I kinda figure if I'm giving someone a valuable opportunity or valuable information and they appreciate it, then they will act accordingly, no prompting needed from me. If not, I will know soon enough.
My employer has a standard practice of turning on email "Read Notifications" so everyone knows if/when everyone else reads the email you sent. I broke that policy my first week on the job because, hey, the notifications show up as *another* email to delete (I was practicing "inbox zero" before I ever knew about Merlin Mann).
Besides, if you're not reading my stuff and you miss something - whose fault is that??
Is the need to slow down really so widespread? If so, why did we begin this march towards speed in the first place?
Now, it's true that my concern about the host is slightly different. But it makes me wonder if we set our own expectations w/ people in similar ways. Sometimes it's tough to know where the line is.
Having true peers on your team scattered around the globe can be useful. But if everybody feels the need to come to you... ack! Luckily most people are respectful of night time, but once you get a reputation for responding to e-mails / IM / phone calls around the clock, they stop calling other people and just go to you.
Technologically we have devised an infrastructure that simply reinforces and amplifies this primitive reactive response. (That's why your boss has no problem giving you a Blackberry)
Culturally we now live in a society where the fight or flight reflex is counterproductive and the challenge is to turn all of this technology around so that we can have more time to be pro-active, creative and have fun
It seems like before we need training to move fast. Now it's the total opposite, we need tobe trained to let go and slow down. Whoa dude. Total turnaround in the pace of life.
People have to now realize the spinning cage we're running in to get off and slow down. It can only happen if you take outself out of the game for a while.
All the Best!
Regards,
Erwin Chua
http://winning2win.com
I own and blackberry and cannot get rid of it.
First I like to be connected to know what is going on around. Second as an entrepreneur and director of one of my 2 companies I have to keep following up with clients and crew members, in the advertising business I believe clients are always in a rush to get replies and things done so I make sure I am always there. Third, while traveling it is easier to stay connected than searching for WiFi connection, and if I am on a vacation I can manage things to not bother myself with work issues while am relaxing. Fourth, social media and online business requires so as well.
And so many other points that keeps me connected 24/7.
So I believe that we can stay connected while we can manage things to not bother or feel stressed.
Cheers!
Jean
So what do I do to manage expectations? For one, I started using AwayFind when I heard you mention it here. It's a great application and I've found that people do in fact make use of it under the appropriate circumstances which is great. I find that I actually peek at my email less and focus on other things. But then I also set expectations up front with new prospects and clients. I let them know how I work and communicate and as them how they prefer to communicate as well. Updates go out every morning to keep everyone "in the know" and from there, it helps eliminate some of the back and forth mess that's created from the whole "did you get my message" moments.
That's my process anyway...
Blackberries and iPhones are dangerous for managing these expectations, because its so easy to respond whilst in a taxi, other than in 4 hours when you get back from your meeting...
Dad.
Lastly; set expectations and no one will complain.
Regardless of whether or not companies have unrealistic expectations, nothing will change until we stop bending to the requests. Why would you want me to work quickly and break my back to deliver you any sort of work that will be rushed, when you can get a product twice as good if you give me a couple more days?
I want my deliveries to be complete, well-thought, and to exceed the expectations of the recipient, not just to be on time.
How you live your life is entirely up to you but it makes one curious. If you profess this idea of relationship as being the real deal and then whine about those who want timely communication about something that is important to them (part of a relationship is understanding the needs of others whether they are reasonable or not) you come off as hypocritical.
You have helped to perpetuate a lot of what you're complaining about. It's not reasonable to have tens of thousands following you on Twitter then having your e-mail out there for everyone then act as if we should only respond to you and vice versa when you find it convenient and on your terms. To expect everyone else to see the world like you want them to is at best naive and worst arrogant.
We are humans and we have limits. Today's technology of being "on all the time" is testing those limits in ways never imagined just 20 years ago. Usually, in order to have one thing something else has to suffer. Each person has to decide what is most important to them. Complaining about what you have helped to perpetuate (whether intentionally or not) is an indication that you may need to make some decisions yourself.
If you slowed down yourself I bet everyone would survive and you might have less expectations placed on you. Just a thought but you have to make that call rather than trying to get everyone else on board with what you deem is appropriate.
But as you wisely point out, it has made me much more respectful of other people's time. I don't expect same-day turnaround anymore, and I find people appreciate that.
Getting home I'm almost the opposite. While I feel somewhat isolated when the internet is down (hey, this is Africa it happens often) I don't need to be on it 24/7 I just like the comfort of knowing that it's there. Often I'll let my mobile take a message rather than answer, emails I get back to in the week and I'll wait for anything off of an a-la-carte menu.
I think it's a balance that we all need to find. Sadly business is ruled by those with a good turn-around time, even if at times the expense of quality...
"Welcome to Macdonalds... would you like fries with that?"
The clash between the consumer's desire for instant response and the actual "speed of business" is the catalyst for speeding things up, but the question remains, how fast is fast enough?
-chris
First, Peter Kim is all knotted up over "echoes," and you can't get a break from your fans.
Why not just write a post stating your new policy or "hours of operation?"
I'm with Frank Reed on this one.
I know how I don't want to spend my time online...
I don't want to spend it complaining.
You are absolutely right and we all have to be very mindful of other people's time and try to manage our expectations. I have started to create boundaries in my life. I have learned in life that most things can wait. Avil
http://www.twitter.com/avilbeckford
"It's not about what you are doing that matter, but what you choose not to do."
People should stop trying to squeeze more out of their time. For instance, when I receive an invitation to the new micro blogging platform, I never accept it. Perhaps just for a quick review and no more.
But I still feel overwhelmed on a regular basis...
~jon
BINGO, Karen Strauss.
With each new technology, here is a increase in demands for faster/now- to the point where there are jokes about people trying to master ESP and pre-anticipate needs to better manage time- that's simply crazy.
Even with ADHD, and a mind that naturally juggles multiple tasks, I am feeling the need to increasingly streamline and focus, to build resources to outsource jobs and in essence, accomplish by sharing rather than feeling the need to do it all myself, because there simply are not enough hours in the day.
You should see what time has done to the architectural industry...
In my profession (law), "false emergencies" have become the norm. It took me a few years to figure out that even in a world where deadlines have real consequences, not every matter is an emergency.
I do twitter and I do check email more than I should. But I don't carry a Blackberry. I don't give out my cell phone to everyone anymore - that ended the day that I was in the middle of a settlement hearing and a potential client asked if I could "pray with her" about an upcoming matter. Her vision and mine of what was an emergency was not the same.
I find my time valuable - between my firm, my blog and my family. It's all about priorities. I know what mine are and I live accordingly. How you choose to spend your time is up to you.
That said, I do find some of the criticisms about being connected interesting. It doesn't come across as whining to me to re-evaluate how you spend your time and think about possible solutions. The world moves pretty fast these days - technology, business practices, lifestyles, they are all constantly changing. Thinking about how that affects you seems smart. But maybe that's just me.
I want to be accessible, but I'm also human. And it's less the notion of people demanding answers so much as they're asking to be heard and acknowledged. That's the real trick. I'm not Chris, but I too struggle each day with living up to my aspirational self - the one that's always responsive, available, pleasant and helpful. I don't care if you're Chris or you're me. We each have limits, and they're in direct proportion to the size and scope of our universe.
Whether we like it or not, expectations HAVE changed. And not only do those who are being tapped for their attention have a responsibility to manage that, but when we're in the position of asking someone for their attention, context matters. If I'm your wife or your sister, I'm hoping that I'm nearer the top of the list than the dude who needs a product sample from you. And I'd expect you to put me in the same queue.
To those in the web/tech realm, not being plugged in is crazy. They can't understand how you can't be plugged in.
I think no matter what, at the end of the day, we're usually with those outside the fast bubble we often live in. We need to remember that.
Thanks for the reminder and the leadership to show us you're human as well.
I think I'm reacting to another kind of trend. Peter Kim's "transform the echo" post, Godin's "rubbernecking" post and this post, which early on says
"Mostly, it’s my web friends to blame..."
Just wondering what's going on with the thought-leading camp.
You can, as you say, "live up to [your] aspirational self - the one that’s always responsive, available, pleasant and helpful" ...and still set boundaries.
People's expectations of you are just that: THEIRS. Your expectations of you are defined by you and ONLY you.
So when Chris says: "We're all to blame...It's no one person's fault." I suppose I'm taking the position that we're NOT all to blame. And it is one person's fault. And for each of us, that one person is ourself.
Part of being in a community is about respecting others AND their personal boundaries. That just means you need to make sure people know what your boundaries are.
People who blast "urgent" messages at inappropriate times are saying more about their lack of manners than their expectations of your immediate response.
What's interesting is that we allow any accommodation of that behavior.
I learned early on that someone else's "emergency" ... most often isn't. So I adjust accordingly, politely and professionally when such a communication makes an appearance.
As for all of the like-minded comments in this thread, I say let's all take a minute to define our own boundaries. Let's be realistic about them. You cannot change others, you can only change yourself, no?
Chris is a leader...as are you, Mr. Godin and Mr. Kim. I just can't help but notice there's been a lot of "frustration" expressed by the thought-leadership this month. I suppose it just keeps catching me off guard. It's guess it's just not what I...expected.
I really have to agree with the set your boundaries up front crowd. I've even drawn up a workflow procedure that I send to new clients. I still feel guilty for a non-instant response but that's something *I* need to work on. ;)
Should we be? I don't know. But if we don't talk about it...
I'm not asking the world to rev anything.
Of course it's a trend. It's been a trend. I'm just suggesting that we might consider talking about setting our own boundaries with regard to this trend. Some people love to be plugged in. Some don't. Either way is cool. That's just it...everyone sets their own parameters. The world WILL continue to expedite processes via technology. That will never change. The power, however, the real unstoppable power is the one we each hold within ourselves to be the master of our technology so the technology is not the master of us.
Time is, was and always will be what each of us make of it.
I thank you for the time you have given me. I have enjoyed this time with you all. I chose to be here. It was wonderful to be a part of this discussion. Now I'm going to choose to grab some lunch with my daughter. It's just that time.
:)
"People who blast “urgent” messages at inappropriate times are saying more about their lack of manners than their expectations of your immediate response."
That's quite true, and a very fair statement. So maybe the discussion is about this aspect, too. If your point about personal responsibility to draw boundaries is solid - and I think it is - we also need to have the conversation about not just expectations, but common courtesy, perhaps?
What if you do your level best to establish boundaries, but those aren't respected or acknowledged as acceptable? How do we accommodate the fact that everyone's boundaries are different? Yes you can only change yourself, but it sure can create quite the firestorm when you draw a line in the sand and tell others that they just need to deal. Is that good business?
Collectively, the world is moving at an unprecedented pace. It's easy to say "just slow down and let people know limits", but in practice it's often not that simple or straightforward. It's about the trend overall toward breakneck speed, and while each person has their individual aspect to sort out, I think the conversation as a whole - especially when it comes to scale and business - is worthy of discussion.
We shouldn't be at people's beckon call but we should be reasonable at getting back within 1-2 days most of the time. To expect more than that is to belittle the value of our time...and it's up to us to set expectations that stress our reachability and what defines responsiveness. Needless to say, I have a thing or two to say about that with a certain product ;-).
Good point, Amber. I'm with @usegraymatter on the need to draw our own boundaries, but there are a few realities of the business world that come into play here too. For example, for those of us freelancers who deal with clients in different time zones around the world - who *choose* to deal with clients in different time zones - it's a business necessity to respect that our client may be facing a very real and very urgent crisis just when we're shuffling off to have a late dinner. If this occurs within the client's normal working day, and we've signed on to be part of their business team... then it's neither bad manners nor an inappropriate pushing of boundaries, for the client to expect us to be on deck, I'd suggest: just an unfortunate side-effect of a global economy. Social chit-chat, however... that's where a sanity-saving line in the sand can (and perhaps should) be drawn.
While like many people I amazed at the richness of information floating around out there, when I'm trying to do my own work - develop a new idea, create a different POV, etc. - I need to shut absolutely everything off. My train of thought gets too broken up with the constant flow of tweets, emails, etc. Heck, half the time I'll even turn my computer off, working with just a pencil and a piece of blank paper can be liberating. But finding the right balance between shut-off / connected time remains a challenge, and I suspect it always will be.
I sort of re-learned the value of shut-off time last year when I went back to school for 8 months - seeing the contrast between how my thoughts developed in a library cubicle for 4 hours vs. on my laptop. I suspect that most people deeply immersed in the world of social media might find they have MORE interesting things to contribute to it if they shut off for awhile, every single day, to simply reflect on what they've been working on.
In my experience, other people who truly live in the 24x7 (or 24x5.5x52 in my case) bubble tend to understand that sometimes you need to just be unavailable especially for the less then cataclysmic issues. And if you're dealing with those kinds of issues, having a trusted peer in another timezone makes life much easier for all. It's the people who don't understand, and who you don't deal with regularly that can be a pain.
Providing ways for people to connect is an essential part of social media. Those who are willing to be open to receiving phone calls, texts, emails, Twitter DMs, and who are actively responding to those who reach out are living proof of how this medium is supposed to work.
HOWEVER.
You wouldn't hand your card out to someone at an event, then walk back up to them 10 minutes later and ask them why they haven't called you yet. What makes this medium any different?
The expectation that ANYONE, no matter how popular they are or aren't, is going to a) acknowledge you immediately b) acknowledge you EVERY single time you contact them or c) reply immediately with solutions to all your problems is not only unrealistic, it's also just plain rude.
Do we set the expectation for how people demand of our time? Certainly, we have some control over that. But my rule of thumb is, give people the benefit of the doubt. Everyone is busy. Everyone must prioritize. Just because what you are connecting about is important to you, doesn't mean it's at the top of everyone else's list. My advice is to back off. The things that are supposed to happen will happen in time. But honestly ain't going to happen any faster (if at all) if you are continually beating down the door.
And I agree whole heartedly rjleaman: if what you do is very timely (like a biz where minutes of downtime could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars or worse), and involves clients or customers in other timezones, then that's just the nature of the beast. But giving yourself downtime becomes more important. If you aren't working on anything urgent, take some time off. Go to a park. (Sure, take your laptop, but don't open it.) For me, I won't check my e-mails. I keep an ear out for calls or txts, but that's it. I don't go out looking for work; it will still be there when I get back.
Speaking of which, I need to go get ready for lunch with my daughter. Unplugging..... now! :)
In the case of sending communications, I make the assumption that the person I'm trying to reach is busy, and does in fact have priorities outside of my own communication.
One of my customers (internal) in a previous role would regularly send me an e-mail, then an IM to make sure the e-mail delivered. If I didn't respond immediately to either of those I could expect a phone call on my office line, followed by my cell if I didn't pick my office line up in time.
Being on 5-7 hours of conference calls/day (on average) meant that much of my work was done after normal business hours, and my working hours responses were limited to items I could easily knock out, or didn't require me to jump off the phone to chase someone down.
It never affected my quality or timing of work, but it did affect my frustration levels when an e-mail would arrive - instant stress.
To me, the time "crunch" comes down to respect. I respect my colleages and business contacts enough to know they are wonderfully brilliant people, who becuase of that brilliance are very pressed for time. It may not be that simple to everyone else I'm around, but it is for me.
I've lost count of the different ways I keep contact with people.
I remember the old days (before I even had a cell) when I would leave a message on someone's voice mail and they would call me back and do the same.
Considering how little 'productivity returns' we get from time spent with email, twitter, Facebook etc an enormous amount of time is wasted that could be put to better use.
Yes, Twitter has placed my gentle helpful message in front of influential people, who have responded with free passes to trade shows and potential profits down the line, but I still have to get off my backside and execute!
I enjoy reading all of the success stories of people including yourself, but those are precisely that, your success stories! I need to get out there and create a success story of my own.
Whether PPC, CPA, CPM, CPA, blogging for dollars, or writing articles for pay, it all boils down to output, output, output on a consistent basis and for an extended period of time. Have I felt like quitting, sure, a few times during the day when I pause from activities to just let my mind wander on how the 'internet lifestyle' may one day be mine.
Truthfully, wearing all of the hats in an online company requires so much time and maintenance that I just collapse in a heap after 14 hours of work. If I had sufficient know-how to make a quick buck, i still would not persue that path as my reputation means more to me than a few dollars.
One day I will meet you again, and hopefully have a success story to tell, if not, no tears from me, I gave it my best shot until the unemployment checks ran out.
Respectfully,
Nicholas Chase
www.twitter.com/nachase
We all need to figure out what works and tell folks. Don't expect them to listen though, that's just how the world works. Any expectation of the masses suddenly turning respectful of each other's time is polly-annish.
As for me I am open from 9 am - 5 pm EST M-F for all types of interaction. After 5 pm there will be intermittent response based on what my family is up to.
Although the pace of communication is certainly something for us to consider, I think it's the expectation part that really sets us up for a variety of unintended consequences. For example, Don Miguel Ruiz's talks about the importance of not making assumptions in his powerful book, The Four Agreements. Because of the lightening pace of communication, we as a collective seem to "assume" that our email/DM didn't go through, that the recipient must be ignoring us, or that "there must be something wrong" if we don't get a response in the time that we assume to be "normal."
As a result of those individual and collective expectations, it's only inevitable that our minds will come up with all sorts of reasons as to why we don't have a response - most of which are not accurate or even remotely true. Yet, as a result of those assumptions, we err on the side of pushy, demanding and sometimes obnoxious behavior just to pacify those fears or worries that come up when we assume or wonder why we haven't received a response.
As a willing participant in the Twitter-verse and online reality, I am sure I've been guilty of this. Hey, I am not perfect - nor is anyone else online. But, I do think the lack of awareness about how unrealistic our expectations can be might set the stage for damaged relationships and reputations if we don't tweak our expectations and give people the benefit of the doubt.
Sure, I haven't hit send, but you should have gotten back to me already!
I know the feeling. I feel like I need to be constantly connected. My Outlook at the office constantly stays open. I can remote connect from my laptop at home. I check facebook a good number of times per day. Twitter now too. I feel like everything that comes into my inbox needs constant attention. Nothing feels like it can wait - from clients to coworkers to supervisors - we now live in a world that works in real-time now. There is no "downtime" anymore. Being off the grid is a very strange (and guilty) feeling.
I went on a week vacation during these past holidays. I checked my e-mail once when I got there and once in the airport on the way back. Not by choice mind you; the resort I stayed at did not have wireless. I learned to adapt. I was surprised at how quickly I adapted to the absence of internet. As the week passed, I only thought about it a few times. But, as I grew closer to reentering society, I started getting "cravings." I enjoyed being off the grid, but I far more enjoyed being reconnected.
rap584 in Twitter
I really respect this post not so much for the business aspect. As I am a student, I really don't have that much to do with this, but I really respect that you understand that we should not all have to be tied down to our laptops and cell phones and checking twitter every 5 seconds. There's more to life! While these technologies are wonderful, and highly beneficial we cannot and should not base our lives around them. I really appreciate that you are bringing attention to this and hope others understand as well!
Props to you!
-@lgaulin
Thanks Chris for introducing this timely topic!
Carol Deckert, Networking Coach
http://twitter.com/caroldeckert
http://www.runlancaster.com/blog